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post #1 of 12 Old 10-23-2013, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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Stay at starter or move up to training level?

My trainer wants me to show training level next season(test 2 and 3), but I'm not sure if I should move up or not.
I've been taking dressage lessons for a year, and english lessons for 3 years, but I've been riding for about 15 years(since I was 12, but I taught myself and rode western mainly).
This was my first season showing and I showed starter w/t/c(intro c and training 1) If I show above training 1, then I can longer be a starter rider.
I did 9 tests this season and ranged from a 55%-65.74%.
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post #2 of 12 Old 10-23-2013, 12:49 PM
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I would say it all depends on if you trust your trainer. Look at your TL-1 scores. In general, with any trainer I have had, consistent scores at 65+ generally indicate a need or positive growth to move up. You aren't increasing levels; just riding slightly more difficult tests. Increasing a level would be going from Intro to all TL, or TL to First level etc.

I do not know of any distinction as a "starter" dressage area in a recognized show so am guessing that is a regional/local area designation for schooling shows? What is the difference between "starter" and regular? The tests and scoring shouldn't be any different. Intro C and TL-1 is just that and a common combination for people to show with just as those working their way up to First level may show TL-3 and First Level Test 1.

I am confused as to why, again thinking regional/area here, why anyone would say that if you are showing TL-2 and 3 why you wouldn't be allowed to also show TL-1? It is ALL training level.
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I would say it all depends on if you trust your trainer. Look at your TL-1 scores. In general, with any trainer I have had, consistent scores at 65+ generally indicate a need or positive growth to move up. You aren't increasing levels; just riding slightly more difficult tests. Increasing a level would be going from Intro to all TL, or TL to First level etc.

I do not know of any distinction as a "starter" dressage area in a recognized show so am guessing that is a regional/local area designation for schooling shows? What is the difference between "starter" and regular? The tests and scoring shouldn't be any different. Intro C and TL-1 is just that and a common combination for people to show with just as those working their way up to First level may show TL-3 and First Level Test 1.

I am confused as to why, again thinking regional/area here, why anyone would say that if you are showing TL-2 and 3 why you wouldn't be allowed to also show TL-1? It is ALL training level.
I do trust my trainer, I just don't know if my scores are good enough to move up.

I guess starter rider is a local designation, I show ESDCTA, and they have starter, open and adult amateur, starter is for riders who have never shown above training 1( http://www.esdcta.org/Rules/Year%20e...5D.pdf2012.pdf ), so once I show training 2, then I would have to be considered open or adult amateur
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post #4 of 12 Old 10-23-2013, 01:34 PM
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I would listen to your trainer. If she thinks you're ready, then you probably are. ^^
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post #5 of 12 Old 10-23-2013, 01:42 PM
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I would say move up,training level offers so much more growth that you can really play around with different things, make the un brilliant moves brilliant, confirm acoupke things.... Will you really know? Have the motivation to push forward if you stay where you are or move up a little,work hard and see where you get score wise...it's nots all about the scores, it's about the understanding of the level, connection with your horse, hard work put in.....you can only move truly move up if its your feeling its right so go for it and try...
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post #6 of 12 Old 10-24-2013, 04:18 AM
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You will never improve if you don't push your boundaries. It is easy to stay at one level and say that you're going to stay there until you perfect it - but you will find that once you start training towards a higher level, the previous level suddenly clicks into place and becomes so much better.

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post #7 of 12 Old 10-24-2013, 06:40 PM
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I agree that you should also listen to your trainer. If you trainer thinks you are ready to move up a test, then you probably are. And like others have stated before, you aren't moving up to a different LEVEL, just moving up within the level. Good luck to you :)
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post #8 of 12 Old 10-24-2013, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you guys, I guess I kind of had it in my head that I would at least get a 70% before started showing training 2 and 3. Then again I do have all winter to improve. I was also hoping to do a few shows with my own(actually he's my moms, but since she wasn't using him I started to when he kicked my mare and she was lame for a few weeks) horse next season, but he probably won't be ready to show T-2 or 3 since I just started doing some dressage with him(he's in his 20's and had been a hack horse before we got him, and possibly a gamer before that, but there is no way to know for sure) and since my trailer isn't usable right now, I'm working with him on my own. I'd REALLY like to show Bella, my TB, but she loses her mind whenever she leaves the property, and we are still working on her bucking issues along with her ducking behind the bit to do being ridden with harsh heavy hands. So it'll be a while before she's ready to go out for shows.
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post #9 of 12 Old 10-25-2013, 12:03 AM
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I would trust your trainer and move up. I had it in my head that I wouldn't move up to novice level eventing until I won at beginner novice (I was always second or third- so close!) Well I got bored and decided to move up and it was a great choice! We've won both of our novice shows on my best dressage scores.

I'm not familiar with the USDF dressage tests, but sometimes one pattern is easier for your horse than another. For some reason my mare trots and canters better circles at E and B than A and C. I don't know why, but she agrees with the flow of the test more. It can't hurt to try - good luck :)

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post #10 of 12 Old 10-25-2013, 10:11 AM
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The fist dressage show I ever went to (be that, it was a small schooling show) was completely on a whim and an extra spot in the trailer. We were able to sign up for TL 2 and 3 and had a lot of fun! This was before I'd had a single lesson in dressage.. You're probably a lot more skilled now than you give yourself credit for, but your trainer can sure see it. Go for it and have fun!
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