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    12-08-2012, 12:14 PM
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Weanling
Stubben or Kieffer?

I was looking for a cheap dressage saddle, and I found a wonderful website with used dressage saddles for very cheap. The two cheapest that I likes the most were a Stubben and a Kieffer Munchen.

I usually ride in a 14 inch Western saddle, and I wasn't really sure what size to get for an English saddle. The Stubben is 17.5" and the Kieffer is 16.5", and it has a narrow tree. The website says the Stubben has a 31 cm tree, what does that mean?

For the narrow tree, what differences does that make in fit? I know it wouldn't fit wider horses, but what horses would it fit?
I'll attach images of the saddles as posts in this thread.

Thanks!
     
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    12-08-2012, 12:15 PM
  #2
Weanling
The Kieffer Munchen
     
    12-08-2012, 12:16 PM
  #3
Weanling
The Kieffer Munchen (sorry about the other post I forgot to press upload for the picture lol)
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    12-08-2012, 12:16 PM
  #4
Weanling
The Stubben
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    12-08-2012, 12:30 PM
  #5
Showing
They're both very nice saddles, and if you ride in a 14" Western the 16.5" Kieffer is the best seat for you. However, you need to find out what tree size your horse takes, otherwise seat size won't mean anything if the saddle doesn't fit the horse.

31 cms is medium-medium wide. My Stubben is a 31 cm and fits my TB like it was made for him.

Until you know what size tree your horse takes, it's worthless to look at buying anything.
     
    12-08-2012, 12:35 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
They're both very nice saddles, and if you ride in a 14" Western the 16.5" Kieffer is the best seat for you. However, you need to find out what tree size your horse takes, otherwise seat size won't mean anything if the saddle doesn't fit the horse.

31 cms is medium-medium wide. My Stubben is a 31 cm and fits my TB like it was made for him.

Until you know what size tree your horse takes, it's worthless to look at buying anything.
I actually don't have my own horse, but the majority of the time, I ride an OTTB.
How do I measure saddle size?
     
    12-08-2012, 12:46 PM
  #7
Trained
They are beautiful saddles,and I would go with the 16.5 the Stubben will be to big. As to the fit, my 30 cm Stubben is still a fraction wide for my friends TB, sadly, I was so hoping she would buy it
     
    12-08-2012, 12:55 PM
  #8
Weanling
I LOVE my Stubben AP but I also ride a 14 inch western and I'm way more comfortable in my 16 1/2in Crosby dressage saddle when it comes to flatwork. I would go for the Kiefer. It actually looks like it has a deeper seat too. But like the others said, make sure it fits your horse first.
     
    12-08-2012, 12:59 PM
  #9
Weanling
How would I be able to tell if it fits the horse? On the website, there is an option to do a trial with the saddle, so would that be a good option? My only issue is that you only get a 3 day trial, and I only go to the barn once a week, and I don't know what day the saddle would come in.
Thanks!
     
    12-08-2012, 01:17 PM
  #10
Trained
Those are some seriously good prices, either saddle is a bargain. As to fit, it is always a lottery and if you don't have your own horse why would you buy anyway?? I can never understand that one, it is like going and buying a nice pair of shoes as a present for a friend that you haven't even met yet, the chances of them fitting are 1000's to one.

If you set on having your own, then ask who ever the tb belongs to what saddle fitting she has, if she has a branded saddle and you look all over it you should be able to find the model and fit details, then you can talk to St Croix and they will give you best guess. Or you could do this



With her saddle, if it fits, and send that off, then you will shorten your odds considerably.

I'd still wait, but at those prices it IS a great deal
     

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