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post #11 of 18 Old 06-03-2013, 07:06 PM
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I will say, however, that the Wintec webbers synthetic leathers don't hold up enormously well. Mine have lasted as long as my saddle has, but they are looking quite worn. And, contrary to what they like to tell you, they DO stretch. I love the convenience and low-key nature of them though, so I live with the wear!
I put regular leather stirrup leathers on my wintec, since my wintec came to me without anything, bare saddle and just the girth. I don't mind the little bit of bulk under my leg from the leathers buckle at all, and I definitely have those 'perfect hole settings' on my old leather leathers :)
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post #12 of 18 Old 06-03-2013, 07:22 PM
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I ride in an older Wintec dressage on trails and as much as I like it my mom does not. Since it is my moms saddle I am forced to sell it since she is the one who need to like it lol.

I agree with her though, she sat in a Passier and fell in love with it. It put her in a good position and made her feel comfortable. My mom has black/herniated disks and one removed, along with arthritis. When we go out on the trails she rides in a dressage saddle since it is more comfortable to her than the more bulky western saddles we have.

On the other hand I still have my wintec Close contact that I love, NO it can not fit ever horse is has very little bend and only fits my TB and appy cross. It is a decent saddle, I would not say the best but its usable.

Between Throwogoods and wintecs I like them both and I would not mind showing in either of them as long as they fit me and my horse appropriately...
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post #13 of 18 Old 06-03-2013, 07:36 PM
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I put regular leather stirrup leathers on my wintec, since my wintec came to me without anything, bare saddle and just the girth. I don't mind the little bit of bulk under my leg from the leathers buckle at all, and I definitely have those 'perfect hole settings' on my old leather leathers :)
I think that when I finally have to buy new leathers I'm going to look up reviews on Bates webbers and see how well they hold up. Otherwise I'll probably look into plain leather leathers. As much as I love mine the wear just came too quickly! My trainer also had a pair of non-webbers synthetic wintec leathers on her saddle, and they were the most horrible things ever. Sooo stiff and difficult to adjust!
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post #14 of 18 Old 06-06-2013, 06:14 PM
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You guys know I'm a broken record where Thorowgood saddles are concerned. I love their dressage model. It's wool flocked, a good price, is very nicely balanced, and fits most horses very well. I had a Wintec years ago but the Thorowgood is much much nicer, at least for me.
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post #15 of 18 Old 06-10-2013, 12:23 AM
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Cheap is as cheap does. You buy cheap, you get a cheap saddle.

IMO Bates and Wintec are designed very poorly and do not place the rider in a good position. As well they tout the "system that fits every horse" which is a complete lie. Anything that touts "one size fits all" needs to be run away from, quickly. They fit some horses OK, most horses not at all and very few horses do they fit well.

I much prefer a KN, Passier, Stubben or other good quality saddle which is designed well. It is not difficult to find a good quality used and fairly inexpensive saddle which will usually fit the horse far better than a Wintec.

Wintecs and others are good starter saddles, but IMO as soon as a person has decided to go down the path of dressage, they need to be in correct gear, and that includes a proper, well fitted saddle.
I don't agree with the first part of this statement...

Yes you do get what you pay for, however if you look after your gear there is no reason a synthetic saddle cannont be a well fitting saddle.

The key is fitting the saddle to the horse and rider. Most people don't take that into account. It is no good buying a saddle that you ride well in (regardless whether it is a KN, Passier, Stubben, Wintec or Tekna) if it doesn't fit your horse, the same goes the other way... What fits your horse amazingly, may not fit you.

No two horses are the same and saying that one brand of saddle doesn't really fit the majority of horses is silly. How many of those saddles that do not fit have been fitted by a competant and knowledgeable saddle fitter? How many of those that do not fit are fitted properly every 12 months to account for the horses body changing shape?

How many people adjust their own gullets because they can ? This messes with the flock, CAIR or FLAIR and affects the way the saddle sits... Thus affecting the fit.

The saddle that fits my 14.3 gelding the best is actually an older style Wintec Isabell. Puts me in a great position too. I have ridden in a variety of saddles (Bates Dressage, Bates Innova, KN Rhapsodie, KN Melodie, Keiffer Melbourne, Prestige D1 Lux - used to work for a pro dressage rider) I know what a "good saddle" feels like to ride in and for me and my gelding... the Synthetic Isabell is on par with the others I have named above.

The last part about the well fitted saddle is the important part. Unless your saddle fits the pair of you, you are not going to achieve the same results you would if the saddle works for you both... Regardless if it is a Synthetic or super expensive Leather saddle.
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post #16 of 18 Old 06-10-2013, 01:09 AM
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Honestly, I think it depends on the brand/model. I just sold my wintec all purpose because of the fit. Yes, I love my gorgeous Courbette, but the wintec was super comfy too and definitely didn't improve or worsen my seat.
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post #17 of 18 Old 06-18-2013, 05:25 PM
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Who uses good quality synthetic saddles in Dressage competitions? Like Wintec, Bates, and Collegiate. I have personally used the Wintec, and my horse and I loved it (apparently, so did the thief).

Some people seem to think that they are only good "training saddles". Why is that? I have never competed (though hopefully next show season I will get into it), but I think the saddles are comfortable on both ends, and nice looking. What else does a show saddle need?
I used a Wintec for years for everyday and show use. If it fits you, fits the horse, and helps you attain the proper body position then ride in it. Synthetic versus leather is NOT an issues in dressage - the issue if if you can ride properly and get your horse to execute the moves properly (i.e. Training).

Dressage is for Trainers!
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post #18 of 18 Old 06-19-2013, 08:34 AM
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As long as the saddle fits, and the rider is comfortable, a synthetic can be ok.

Most important is proper fit.

I will add though, you can pick up a nice Black Country or Neidersuss for $500-$900. Why would you pay over a thousand dollars for something synthetic when you can get a far superior piece of gear for less?

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