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    01-29-2012, 03:42 PM
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Foal
Lightbulb Is there a need for customized Freestyle (Kur) dressage music?

I see alot of people asking questions about choosing music for freestyles, so I'm wondering if there is a need for edited music for riders.

I'm a drummer and also do recording and editing, so I understand rhythm and tempo. I'm also a former dressage rider and understand the need for particular music during certain parts of the tests. Most songs don't have the changes in places that suit all 3 gaits let alone extended and FEI level movements.

I'm just curious of people would be interested in this type of service.

Thanks in advance
     
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    01-29-2012, 03:55 PM
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Trained
There are quite a few people who offer the service internationally. The best one I've used has a huge, huge, huge inventory of music (if she digitized it all I doubt a few terabytes would be enough) and travels. As well she has tons of experience and thus is her full time job. Her FEI freestyles start over $1200 and her national level ones around $500. So its not something everyone can afford...
After all the music and software purchases, and time, especially if you're doing it long distance, it does become expensive. If you want to do it seriously for anything above third level you also need to be really good at editing the music and making good choreography.

If you can find a niche, you would probably get clients. To make a viable business however you have to be really good and your prices will have to go up. It is very time consuming too...

Good luck!
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    01-29-2012, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
There are quite a few people who offer the service internationally. The best one I've used has a huge, huge, huge inventory of music (if she digitized it all I doubt a few terabytes would be enough) and travels. As well she has tons of experience and thus is her full time job. Her FEI freestyles start over $1200 and her national level ones around $500. So its not something everyone can afford...
After all the music and software purchases, and time, especially if you're doing it long distance, it does become expensive. If you want to do it seriously for anything above third level you also need to be really good at editing the music and making good choreography.

If you can find a niche, you would probably get clients. To make a viable business however you have to be really good and your prices will have to go up. It is very time consuming too...

Good luck!
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Thanks for your input! Does the person you work with have a website? I would like to check it out.

I've seen 2, 1 was nice, professional studio and musicians, the other seemed like the website hasn't been updated since 2008 and alot of the links failed.

I'm not really looking to make alot of money at this, but I've seen some free styles that would have been alot better if the music was more appropriate for entire test.

Getting the music and editing it or mixing in various pieces of music to suit a particular transition isn't that difficult. Music selection is alittle harder, but I'm assuming each rider would pick what they prefer (of course, there may be a need to mix in additional tracks to cover certain movements)

Thanks again for the feedback!
     
    01-29-2012, 05:00 PM
  #4
Trained
You think its not tough, but extending tracks in a way that is not obvious can get really hard. You have to set up the tracks that the transition occurs at a good point in the music. If you have 1:15 of usable track and 1:27 of trot kind of thing...
You also have to find pieces of music in the riders chosen genre that are the right tempo and "improve" the horse. For example if there is a strong down beat in the canter music my horse looks awful, but syncopated beats improve how his canter appears. A smaller horse with a fast canter however, might benefit from a strong downbeat where syncopation would make the canter look quick and busy.

I use Applause Dressage, she travels all over the west coast and does a great job.
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    01-29-2012, 06:12 PM
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Foal
Yes, I know what you're saying, but the tempo of a song can be altered to suit the horse. (unless it makes the song obnoxiously slow or fast, then go with a better music selection). I realize the music needs to improve the horse's movements, not hinder. That's why I ask if there is a need for this. In most cases (aside from GP level) the music is pretty bad in the freestyles

I've heard enough freestyles that play the entire song as it was written, even if it didn't fit many parts of the pattern. Also, alot of riders leave vocals in which seems odd and distracting

Extending tracks until the horse reaches the end of the vertical (for instance) wouldn't really work, so the change needs to come at the end of the veritical or even at C or A if there's a change to pattern at that point.

What I'm saying is that it's not too difficult to mix various pieces of music to fit the different transitions. You can always compose or mix in a separate piece (a fill) to connect 2 pieces of music. There is software that will nail all of this down. Most time signatures will be either 4/4 time for the walk and trot and 3/4 time for the canter. These signatures work well together. Passage and piaffe could also be done in 4/4, but 2/4 or 2/2 might really bring it out

Thanks again for the information!
     
    01-30-2012, 09:39 AM
  #6
Trained
You don't necessarily need 3/4 for the canter... I would highly suggest you see if applause Dressage is doing a clinic near you and go watch. They will answer tons of your questions and dispell myths (so to say).
About the extension of tracks, one of the reasons I use the company I do is that they are the best at extending tracks and maintaining musicality... its a lot harder than you might think.

Good luck!
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