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    03-21-2011, 03:05 PM
  #1
Green Broke
Are these bits Dressage legal?

I am trying to figure out a bit to use for dressage.
Are these legal?

-Beval
-Dr. Bristol hanging cheek
-D-ring Dr. Bristol/french link


What do you use for a dressage bit?

(thess pics are in order of the bits.)
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    03-21-2011, 07:49 PM
  #2
Trained
The first bit is not legal as it has a curb action.
The second bit is legal, however if the center link is switched from a french link (as pictured) to a Dr. Bristol (as you described) the bit is no longer legal.
The third bit is illegal because of the Dr Bristol link.

The purpose of dressage is not to get the horse into a headset with a harsh bit - but rather to use the bit as a communication tool to teach the horse to correctly use his body. For most horses a loose ring or egg butt snaffle is sufficient for training.

Good luck!
     
    03-21-2011, 07:58 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Ok, so no Dr. Bristols in Dressage. Got it!
Thanks

VB
     
    03-21-2011, 08:08 PM
  #4
Showing
Actually 2nd one looks like dogbone (french link) to me rather than Dr. Bristol.
     
    03-21-2011, 08:37 PM
  #5
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Actually 2nd one looks like dogbone (french link) to me rather than Dr. Bristol.
Read my previous post in detail. The bit pictured is legal, the bit as described in the OP is not.
     
    03-21-2011, 08:51 PM
  #6
Green Broke
So then, what makes a dogbone french link (Im assuming it is dogbone because of the shape/angle) different from a Dr.Bristol?
Thanks

VB
     
    03-21-2011, 08:56 PM
  #7
Showing
In a French link bit, the center link is rounded, shaped, and designed to lie smoothly on the horse's tongue.

A correctly-designed Dr. Bristol (and many are NOT well-made, which adds to the confusion) has a center link that is a long, thin plate set at a slight angle. A proper Dr. Bristol is designed to be used in TWO ways -- it can be put into the horse's mouth so that the plate lies flat and works almost like a French-link, OR it can be put into the horse's mouth so that the plate lies at about a 45-degree angle. This is when it is severe.

(from Jessica Janiel, but I've read it in other sources too back when I was looking for bit for my horses).
     
    03-21-2011, 09:02 PM
  #8
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by VanillaBean    
So then, what makes a dogbone french link (Im assuming it is dogbone because of the shape/angle) different from a Dr.Bristol?
Thanks

VB
A french link snaffle's most noticable differences from a Dr. Bristol are first of all it's curved shape (hence the reference to a dog bone) and second of all the angle at which it links into the rest of the snaffle. The french link is connected in such a way that it lies in the same plane as the cheekpieces.
The Dr. Bristol has a larger, flat shaped link and it is angled 45 degrees from the plane of the cheekpieces. These two features mean that the bit is quite harsh and gives tongue/palette pressure when applied.
Other variations to the linked bit include a bean link, a KK link, and others and are usually legal.
     
    03-21-2011, 10:42 PM
  #9
Weanling
http://www.usef.org/documents/ruleBook/2011/08-DR.pdf

Sorry if I am misinformed.. but according to USEF, Dr. Bristols are legal.

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    03-21-2011, 10:58 PM
  #10
Trained
Oooh that is so weird.. It must be like what kitten_Val said how they need to be oriented a certain way because I know people whom have been disqualified for use of a Dr. Bristol (this was a few years ago though..).
This is in the US.. I'm sure other places have different rules. Fairly sure thy are illegal in Canada as well.
     

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