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post #11 of 29 Old 03-10-2012, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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I'll see if I can get a more recent video as well...this was in a clinic where the clinician told me I wasn't being stern enough and had me over exaggerating with my hands if she didn't respond to my seat and legs right away...so I was in her face a ton that day!

I'll get my trainer to take one during my lesson Tuesday and post it for everyone as well!
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HITS, where have you been? Did you make the move to Florida yet?

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..this was in a clinic where the clinician told me I wasn't being stern enough and had me over exaggerating with my hands if she didn't respond to my seat and legs right away...
That makes absolutely no sense at all. If a horse won't respect my leg, I don't get in her face. I apply a tap with the whip, and if that doesn't do it she gets stung with same.

How in the world is a horse supposed to associate GO (which is what legs mean) with a stronger rein (restraining) aid?

I don't care who the clinician is, you wasted your money.
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Sorry I was referring to downwards in that last part, not upwards! So if I asked her to walk from a trot with seat and legs and she ignored and ran through them, then she told me to quickly apply the reins and make her stop, of course releasing the pressure as soon as she responded appropriately :)
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HITS, where have you been? Did you make the move to Florida yet?
Not yet unfortunately!! :p gotta sell the Ohio homes first! ;)
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Alright, here is my trainer trying to "unlock" her and get her to become more supple and relaxed when she first got on her (after warming up on loose rein that is):



And then here is after that when I got on her and rode her for the remainder of the lesson. This is more how my mare normally is versus that first video I posted which was taken back in December.


I know she still has a lot of work ahead of her and needs to learn how to get off the forehand, but is there anything you visibly see ME doing to hinder that so I can work on it? I mean with my posture for example? I know I need to work on being more consistent with the reins, I tend to let them go slack and then have to pick them back up again, etc.

The lounging we've been doing with side reins has really helped her recently though, just getting her to carry herself, build her topline, and learn not to throw her head up through the upward transitions so I'll definitely be continuing that for sure! But anything I can do with my posture or how I'm asking to help her get off the forehand I am certainly interested in doing!

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HS, I'm not in expert in any way, but in the last video you posted she looks like not having a consistent contact. Also instead of just keep making 20 m circles over and over I'd go with different elements to keep her more entertained.

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Kitten great advice and it definitely helps to switch directions and do something other than just the circle. That was just a clip and my trainer was having me work on it for a minute (and the other half of the arena was being used by another lesson so we weren't able to use full arena unfortunately), but normally she has me change directions through the circle and transition up and down, etc. just to make sure she stays focused.

I agree with you on the inconsistent contact, I find myself doing that a LOT in these videos. It's almost like I'm afraid of the consistent contact because then she tends to hang on my hands, so as soon as she gives I almost let go a bit, which is causing other problems (like the tossing of the head I think I'm finding). Any tips on how to try to get myself out of the habit of the inconsistent contact?

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I also took that clinic again (so fun!!) and in watching this video, I noticed I am very stiff in my arms/elbows so if anyone has any tips on how to correct that I would appreciate it!


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Here's some flatwork...

Flatwork at the Cathy Jones Forsberg Clinic - YouTube

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