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post #21 of 61 Old 08-15-2012, 09:00 PM
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I just watched the vids again.

I LIKE her a lot. She uses her hind end better than you'd expect from the conformation pictures and the level of the rider- she tracks up at walk and trot, and reaches under herself in trot and canter. I'd love to see her under a more educated dressage rider. She tries her heart out.

I also think you'd be finding many fans at your new dressage barn, including your trainer.Oh yes indeedy.

Hitch up your trailer and go git her!
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post #22 of 61 Old 08-15-2012, 09:47 PM
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I really like her as a lower level horse. :) I agree with Weezilla about the willingness, she just looks like a calm cooperative, happy horse overall. If she was ridden more foreward with contact I think she could do quite well... maybe not 2nd level, but that takes a long time to get to and I think for your needs she's great.

I chuckled at the Wintec comments... I had an extremely limited budget when looking for a saddle and while I tried some used, nicely made leather saddles the Wintec I have fits my horse perfectly and he works extremely well in it. If I had gone with a "nicer" saddle that didn't fit I wouldn't have been considering his welfare, not the opposite.
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post #23 of 61 Old 08-15-2012, 10:57 PM
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I just checked Ebay for used dressage saddles under $500. There are a number of nice ones - Stubben, Kieffer, Passier, Crosby, Max Hopfner. LOTSA GOODIES!
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post #24 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 05:49 AM
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I like the look of her... but make sure that dressage is really for you ;)

Are you able to take her on a loan period prior to purchase to make sure there are no hidden issues... sometimes things are too good to be true, but then again don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;D

I also ride in a wintec currently. I love them. I am no going out and spending a small fortune on a 3yo who will shape and change over the coming 18months considerably. Where as I can fix and change a wintec should it be required.

I knew a GP rider who only rode in wintec. All the way to the top.
Providing when you buy 2nd hand you make sure all parts are working and nothing is deflated, there is nothing wrong with them.

Any badly fitting saddle comprimises a horse's welfare. Not all saddles will fit a horse and rider, but if a wintec does, I'm confused as to how it is against the horses welfare o.0
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post #25 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 07:58 AM
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Nik, I think she's a very cute horse, and seems to be quiet and willing. I have to say I haven't seen too many horses like her in my local rescues. And as a starter... Why not? My qh has much worse confo and schooling 1st level at the moment (under the trainer as I can't ride). Plus (as mentioned) once schooled to 1st level you can always sell her to the good home and look for more advanced horse.

As for wintec, I've seen it to be great fit for some horses, and horrid fit for others (like mine). As with -any- saddle. When you'll look for the saddle just get 5-6 saddles from the consignment and saddle fitter out to find out which is the best. If it'll be wintec then that's what it is. :)
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post #26 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone for all the great responses!

I just found out the barn I had my heart set on stabling at is full... with a waiting list. Boo! So, that's hurdle number one: find out where I could keep her. My other two horses are at my parents' house (along with my SIL's gelding) but they live over an hour away, and we have all geldings so I hate to disrupt that balance. (We brought a mare in once and it was somewhat of a disaster). Additionally, I would need a trainer and there really isn't one nearby. So... I guess I'll look around for another barn and put my name on the waiting list of this one.

I definitely know the value of a good saddle... but I managed to make do on mediocre Western saddles until I finally "traded up" and found a nice, used Circle Y on Ebay for $300. I'm all about the bargain hunting... but I find it a little silly that a rescue is sort of being judged for not having a "proper" dressage saddle. Chances are, that saddle either didn't belong to them (possibly belonged to the girl riding the mare) or was donated to them. This is a (very good) rescue in mid-Wisconsin and they deal with a lot of Western horses.... haven't seen to many dressage horses/dressage prospects listed on their site so it would be a bit silly of them to go out and buy a dressage saddle just in case another horse like this might get donated.

As far as a trial period, the rescue gladly takes back horses that are adopted out and just don't work out for whatever reason. (In fact, I think it's a requirement: if the horse doesn't work out, you have to return it to them). I would feel a bit bad about asking for an adoption fee back so I'd probably just let them keep it (adoption fee is only $500)... but honestly I would likely just see if she can go another direction if dressage isn't for me. :)
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post #27 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 09:44 AM
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She's really cute, I think for $500 you can't really go wrong. Where I'm from we have a lady who shows a mule (maybe large donkey? I can't really tell) at the lower levels and does quite well lol. Definitely not comparing the mare to a donkey, I'm just saying you might be pleasantly surprised how well she does. Plus, you're saving a life in a sense can't go wrong there!
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post #28 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 10:38 AM
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$500 is definitely worth it IMO. In my area, if you want a non ancient horse that can sort of be ridden It's still going to be a whole lot more than that. I'd say, try her out, make sure she has a good temperament and the basics down and if you like her, go for it! I'm more concerned about personality than ability, because at the level I ride at the horse doesn't need to be some insane athlete to do well and It's much easier (for me, at least) to ride a cooperative horse with so so movement and conformation than a high strung 17hh warmblood that I couldn't handle (not that I don't love giant warmbloods... I just prefer to look )
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post #29 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 11:05 AM
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Nik, the vast majority of posters agree with you on the saddle issue.As in, all but one.

I say just grab her. It would be a shame to lose out. You can work on getting aquainted and getting her in shape until a space in the dressage barn comes open.
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post #30 of 61 Old 08-16-2012, 11:17 AM
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And Niko, you said that you're unfamiliar with what makes a good dressage horse. May I suggest you take a peek at DuffyDuck's young horse Dubai in her video on the first post of her thread
First lesson on Dubai -video-

He's delicious! And he's a BIG baby - 16.3 at under 4 y.o., according to her bio.

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