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post #261 of 511 Old 05-14-2013, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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Good luck with the Innova, I know a couple of people that loves theirs with standard blocks. Personally I can't stand any saddle that forces you into a position, you need to be able to move unless you ride as a passenger on a school horse.
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post #262 of 511 Old 05-15-2013, 12:08 AM
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How's this information for shoulder in etc ?: (I want to make sure I get correct info! So I don't start a bad habit!)

Lesson 15 - Starting Lateral Work: The Shoulder-in - Classical dressage
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post #263 of 511 Old 05-15-2013, 02:05 PM
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The key thing to remember is that it is a shoulders in, not a haunches out.

The hindlegs continue tracking straight down the wall as they would were you just trotting down the wall normally. The mistake I see most often is the rider pushes the horse too far over the outside aids and the haunches swing out to keep the horse's balance. The purpose of the shoulder in is to ride the horse up to the inside aids, not push the horse over from them.
Focus on that outside hind and keeping it tracking straight forward, the hind legs should not cross. Then bring the shoulder in with your outside knee, and sometimes an opening inside rein (as a teaching aid). The inside leg stays pressed forward and waits for the outside aids to push the horse up to it to create bend. At first, dont try for 3 tracks, begin with a shoulder fore, in which the outside fore is between the hindlegs, so the horse is on 4 tracks.

Good luck! The shoulder in is one of the most difficult movements to ride correctly.

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post #264 of 511 Old 05-15-2013, 02:41 PM
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We went to our first "big" show last weekend at 3rd Level and had great success (for the first "kick at the can" of the year, imo)! I rode in front of Cara Whitham for one of my classes which I thought was super exciting - she ripped me apart and I got my lowest score of the weekend from her at a 63% and it was awesome, she didn't miss a single step. We also got a 64%, 65%, 68%, and 69%. I was hoping to break a 70% (.8% away!!!), maybe next show! We had great comments overall and it was nice to see my rider mark go up a bit. From the comments I need to work on poll up and nose in front a bit more (looking at pictures I'm seeing him dropping his poll and coming behind the vertical at times), along with more engagement from the hind end.

We came back with 5/5 1st's and the 3rd/4th level Adult Amateur Championship! I'm so very proud of my boy .

Now we're back to basics and going to work towards that 70% for our next show at the end of June.
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post #265 of 511 Old 05-15-2013, 03:19 PM
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Just a bit of progress to report! Not directly dressage, but related... so my gelding was a "successful" Western pleasure horse when he came to me, but he was horribly on his forehand with little muscle to show. I have spent the past 6 months muscling him up, teaching him long-and-low and beginning collection with a dressage trainer-- with the idea that he could become a better WP horse while venturing into a discipline that could benefit us both. Well, we have a show on the 25th that is Western & English pleasure and equitation, and I have started doing refresher rides to prepare. Yesterday every time I asked him for a jog, I could feel him really lift his back and as a result he looked just so darn pretty on video! What a difference! It was so light, smooth and balanced... I'm a proud mama!

We still need to work on collection at the canter (it is hard to keep him off his forehand in a lope) and so today it's back to the dressage tack! But even yesterday after going through our paces on video, I asked Jax to trot long and low and my barnmate was astounded with how much he loves to stretch over his top line and trot out.

I'm just happy that I am doing right by my horse. :)
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post #266 of 511 Old 05-16-2013, 03:26 AM
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Day 2 in the Innova. The difference in Rhett is amazing. I'm still not sold on it in regards to the contour blocks, I would definitely prefer the standard over the extended, but I can live with it if he keeps going like he did yesterday. Shoulder-in, travers, leg yield, half pass were all so much easier. There was some resistance the first time I asked for something, but the second time around it was like riding a different animal. It would seem that our old saddle was making it uncomfortable for him to complete what I was asking for, because he seemed to have found pretty much everything easier yesterday.

Only time will tell if yesterday was a fluke or not!
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post #267 of 511 Old 06-03-2013, 05:54 PM
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I'm having trouble Turing on the forehand. My pony tends to rush through it and doesn't keep his front legs in one spot. It looks more like a tight turn than a turn on the forehand. Any advice?
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post #268 of 511 Old 06-03-2013, 08:15 PM
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Okay I need some advice.

Sidepassing at the trot and canter.

Sometimes my horse doesn't understand that I want him to move laterally so he just speeds up. This is mainly at the trot.

At the canter, he takes off in nothing like a sidepass.

We were fine the week before, so I assume it's my cues and or position that is negatively affecting him.

Anyone have any tips on what I can do to communicate what I want to him? She says he is taking off because I'm using my legs more (which is true) but I'm not even putting that much leg on.

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Okay I need some advice.

Sidepassing at the trot and canter.

Sometimes my horse doesn't understand that I want him to move laterally so he just speeds up. This is mainly at the trot.

At the canter, he takes off in nothing like a sidepass.

We were fine the week before, so I assume it's my cues and or position that is negatively affecting him.

Anyone have any tips on what I can do to communicate what I want to him? She says he is taking off because I'm using my legs more (which is true) but I'm not even putting that much leg on.
I kind of have the same issue, although our problem is just plain greenness. If Cloud moves off faster instead of getting of my leg, I bend him away from the leg and do the larger-circle exercise, to get him thinking about moving away from my leg. It usually works, but I'd love to hear what other people do :)
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post #270 of 511 Old 06-03-2013, 09:31 PM
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I'm having trouble Turing on the forehand. My pony tends to rush through it and doesn't keep his front legs in one spot. It looks more like a tight turn than a turn on the forehand. Any advice?
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I kind of have the same issue, although our problem is just plain greenness. If Cloud moves off faster instead of getting of my leg, I bend him away from the leg and do the larger-circle exercise, to get him thinking about moving away from my leg. It usually works, but I'd love to hear what other people do :)
Hmm yeah mine is a schoolmaster (not just dressage.. I don't think anyone else rides him the same way I do) he just can be a bit challenging at times. And I'm getting better each week at using myself properly..

Maybe I can ask my instructor if I can do half of a halfpass.. like do it for 2 strides, then straighten.. and build up on it then. Do you think that would work? Maybe I'm rushing it?

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