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  • What level do you do a sitting trot in dressage

 
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    01-01-2011, 12:18 PM
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When to move to sitting trot?

My dressage trainer said sometime back that we'll start working on sitting trot only when both of us are "ready" for it. However I know many trainers go with sitting trot/no stirrups work all the time. So I'm kinda wondering what means "ready"? (yes, silly enough I forgot to ask for clarification from her )
     
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    01-01-2011, 12:57 PM
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When the horse's back is strong enough to carry you easily and you have mastered the ability to energize the horse forward with the lightest of aids then you are ready.
     
    01-01-2011, 01:17 PM
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I personally feel that the sitting trot is more of an advanced "movement". You really don't see sitting trot until at least 2nd level Dressage, 1st level you can do either or and wont get docked against if you decide to do a posting trot, but 2nd level you must do a sitting. *please correct me if I am wrong*

I think your horses topline should be strong and developed because the movement can be quite strenuous on the horses back, especially if you don't know how to do it properly.

And I also feel the rider should beable to have elasticity in their lower limbs. Back, ankles, Knee's. So that your body can move with the horses movements without hindering the horse in any sort of way. The rider must be balanced and able to use their body parts seperately in independant ways while doing the movement.

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Spyder, we posted at the same time - I never saw your response until I submitted mine.

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and you have mastered the ability to energize the horse forward with the lightest of aids then you are ready.
I like this very much!
     
    01-01-2011, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
When the horse's back is strong enough to carry you easily and you have mastered the ability to energize the horse forward with the lightest of aids then you are ready.
Spyder, could you clarify what you mean by that, please? And how you can really tell?
     
    01-01-2011, 02:03 PM
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think your horses topline should be strong and developed because the movement can be quite strenuous on the horses back, especially if you don't know how to do it properly.
^^^ As stated here ^^^
     
    01-01-2011, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
I personally feel that the sitting trot is more of an advanced "movement". You really don't see sitting trot until at least 2nd level Dressage, 1st level you can do either or and wont get docked against if you decide to do a posting trot, but 2nd level you must do a sitting. *please correct me if I am wrong*
I think you are correct about it 1st or 2nd level. But then I see sitting trot all the time with almost beginners in those big lessons barns I went several times. Are those horses are strong enough in back?
     
    01-01-2011, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
^^^ As stated here ^^^
MIE, how you can tell then?
     
    01-01-2011, 02:28 PM
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Kitten,

I think the beginners you see sitting the trot are sitting a slow, shortened trot, rather than a true dressage working trot. And they're probably riding schoolies who have learned not to move through their backs and only move their legs in self defense, so they're quite easy to sit, though incorrect.

To add to what Spyder has already said; I would say that when you can maintain a good following seat with adequate motion in your seat bones and hips at a strong working trot WITHOUT actively concentrating on it, without using a "sissy strap" and you can apply other aids without losing your following seat, then you're reading to ride sitting consistently.

For me, it took A LOT of time on a lunge line on a big moving horse before it became automatic, and I didn't have to think about it all the time.
     
    01-01-2011, 06:27 PM
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Totally agree with everything everyone is saying! On me horse siting the trot is really hard... your stomach muscles hurt with in the first couple of minutes. Sitting trot is more advanced and people don't normally realize that and they think its easy. I know I learned it because im starting 2nd level and and some 3rd and 4th level movements. I don't think you should start learning it until your a pretty good rider and know how to stay in balanced with your horse and know how to absorb the shock in your hips, legs, and stomach.

The people on the lesson horses are probably riding horses that are very smooth and easy to sit and they are probably not doing it right!
     
    01-02-2011, 11:48 AM
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I see what you are saying, folks. Thank you!
     

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