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    01-15-2012, 06:25 PM
  #11
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
Val, I can see that your horse is stiff. Her trot seems very stiff and short, but of course I dont' know what she is like normally.

I thought you rode her very well. Your posting is so solid that is looks like you are sitting the trot.
One thing I noticed was that you seem to be advancing your inside shoulder a bit more than seems correct. Or maybe collapsing it a little. Particularly when going right. It's really hard to see if that is just an illusion of the heavy clothing you are wearing or not.

Your hands were very nice and steady and the horse did really well in her transitions.
Thanks, tiny! Yes, she has a short trot in general (because of her built: long body + short legs) and stiffer going left, that's exactly why the good warm-up is critical for her to loosen up. I'll try to see if I have any videos we took recently (when I was riding test at home to practice after the warm-up). If I find one I'll post.

As for my posture, I think I'm somewhat crooked on right (so your observation was very correct). My stirrup there is longer (that's what both my trainers say), but it feels OK comparable to my other one, and yes, I do lean more that direction (doesn't collapse though, I specifically asked trainers). So I have to keep it in mind every time I ride to keep myself straight, I guess I was too focused on test! Lol!
     
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    01-15-2012, 06:34 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by faye    
unfortunatly frozen warm ups happen. Normaly the show centre cancels the event.

I've perfected the art of warming up my horse in the lorry park. You can do an awful lot of walk and trot work, and lots and lots of bending and latteral work (at walk) in the lorry park. It is not ideal but it is doable!
Sorry for the question, but what is lorry park? Trailer parking?

I'd be quite happy if they allow to ride outside on grass or the dust road (because while hard still there were no stones there and horse wasn't tripping every other step), but it wasn't allowed. The trailer parking was too small - no space to ride at all.

Good to know though it's not something too uncommon! As I said I think I just going to pass till April. :)
     
    01-15-2012, 06:36 PM
  #13
Trained
Hell, even perfect conditions, I couldn't produce a respectable test with only 10 minutes of warmup. Winter shows do come with a whole new set of barriers. I don't bother going to them just because of that problem. In cold weather, I'd need 20 minutes just to get him focused. I give you lots of credit just for going!
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    01-15-2012, 06:37 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by maura    
Val,

I think it's a perfectable respectable test. No major disobediences, correct transitons, etc. I suspect you're frustrated because you know you're capable of better with a proper warmup.

Particularly when you're riding a "non-dressage" type, you really want them as soft, supple and willing as possible, and this probably just wasn't it for her.

I don't know if I'd give up showing in the winter, but I surely wouldn't show at this facility again unless I knew the warm up areas were better.

I don't think I every rode a horse that I didn't think needed at least a 30 minute warm up to go their best in a dressage test.

I think your girl was a sweetheart to do as well as she did considering the circumstances/
Thank you, maura! Makes me feel better! She is a good girl indeed and gives her heart when asked even though she lacks dressage confo.

We don't have too many dressage shows going in winter, unfortunately. I'm surprised the weather been so nice this year (I had to quit riding completely this time of year last year because of the ice storm).
     
    01-16-2012, 04:52 AM
  #15
Green Broke
Yep in the trailer park. The lines where you walk the horse down to the warm up and the spaces between the lorries/trailers can be very good for bending, walk work nd suppling your horse up. If you get on your horse at the trailer don't just walk her to the warm up, start warming her up then and there!
     
    01-16-2012, 10:02 AM
  #16
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Originally Posted by faye    
yep in the trailer park. The lines where you walk the horse down to the warm up and the spaces between the lorries/trailers can be very good for bending, walk work nd suppling your horse up. If you get on your horse at the trailer don't just walk her to the warm up, start warming her up then and there!
Haha! It's different here, faye. Depending on farm holding clinic of course (but most have VERY limited parking space), but at this one you just have enough space to park trailers in one line (and with just 3-5 feet in between), electric fence right behind the back of the trailer, then road in front of the trailer with trailers and cars going back and forth, and then warm-up ring right next to it. So basically you can't just get on horse and do some walking work between the trailers. Only from standing still position!

But I appreciate your advice. I didn't think about may be just walk out the ring and walk back and forth in front of indoor doing bending. Well, something new to know!
     
    01-16-2012, 10:58 AM
  #17
Green Broke
So how do you get your horse out of the trailer? At summer shows we have more space but winter shows can get very crammed, parking stweards only normaly leave enough space behind the lorry to safely unload a horse and you can sometimes tie to the side of the lorry but more often you can't.

When the lorry ramps are down you probably have about 8ft of bare ground before the other lorry in which normaly goes right down the lorry line so you can work in in those areas if your horse is good with others and not spookey and you are hyper aware of people loading/unloading.
     
    01-16-2012, 04:26 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by faye    
So how do you get your horse out of the trailer? At summer shows we have more space but winter shows can get very crammed, parking stweards only normaly leave enough space behind the lorry to safely unload a horse and you can sometimes tie to the side of the lorry but more often you can't.

When the lorry ramps are down you probably have about 8ft of bare ground before the other lorry in which normaly goes right down the lorry line so you can work in in those areas if your horse is good with others and not spookey and you are hyper aware of people loading/unloading.
It was kinda funny. Mine was pulled more forward so I could unload the horse. As well as the trailer next to mine. Next had the doors to unload on sides (big trailer), so it was backed all way to the fence (otherwise truck would be on road), I think next couple trailers also had side doors.
But even if we had little bit of space all along the fence I'd be very unsure to ride a horse in wind very next to the electric fence.

Lorry is not something common here. One is parked at my trainer's place, and I think it's shorter or about same length as my (smaller trailer) + truck. I bet it's easier to drive.
     
    01-16-2012, 04:56 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Mine is 28ftlong nose to tail, 7ft6 wide and 13ft high.
Mine is concidered to be a SMALL lorry. A friend of mine has a lorry that is close on 40ft long!

I find it far easier than a trailer to drive (mainly because it actualy goes where I point it in reverse!)

Mum used to have 4x4 and trailer, it was about 23ft nose to tip and a nightmare to reverse it!
     
    01-16-2012, 08:28 PM
  #20
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Originally Posted by faye    
mine is 28ftlong nose to tail, 7ft6 wide and 13ft high.
Mine is concidered to be a SMALL lorry. A friend of mine has a lorry that is close on 40ft long!
Wow! I believe 28 is about my truck + trailer. The lorry at my trainer's place is about same size (may be little smaller). I think I've seen 40 ft just once (at the Washington Horse Show this year).

We kinda drifted away, but... :) Why lorries are so popular in Europe (or at least in your country)? Here I just un-hitch my trailer and use my truck for all different things (like bringing hay, mulch, gravel, etc.), so lorry would be quite unpractical.
     

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