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        04-03-2014, 05:26 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Would we Be able to do lower level drssage??

    Would me and my horse be able to compete in lower level dressage? I would have an instructor and we would just do local small competions he's a 23 yr. Old Morgan gelding. I will upload a video soon. And I will also get better pics under English tack tomorrow.
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        04-03-2014, 05:54 PM
      #2
    Green Broke
    I don't see why not. Pretty much any horse can do lower level stuff (and it is beneficial!)

    Definitely use English tack, that tack is not doing either of you any favors. Put on a snaffle bit so you can push him into the bit. Pushing him into a curb does not give release, don't try it with that bit.

    I think once you have that you need to work on getting his weight off his forehand (may never be perfect depending on his confo but good to work on) and just start basic training and you will be fine!
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        04-03-2014, 05:58 PM
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    Trained
    Just do western dressage!!

    I'm finding actually that for the stock type horses it's much easier to just enter them into WD than trying to force them into something that is very un-natural for them.

    Of course it is highly dependent on the judge, we are lucky we have many local judges who have gone to clinics/etc.. regarding the judging of WD, and many local shows are offering it.

    I would also prefer to see a snaffle in the horse's mouth, or one handed curb.

    Good luck!
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        04-03-2014, 06:45 PM
      #4
    Foal
    Here is video of him in an extended trot
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    Here is his canter but he was getting really annoyed because I was trying to get him into a frame lol
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    He is being ridden in this bit, but I will be switching to an English bit any recommendations on what to get will be helpful.
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        04-03-2014, 06:52 PM
      #5
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yogiwick    
    I don't see why not. Pretty much any horse can do lower level stuff (and it is beneficial!)

    Definitely use English tack, that tack is not doing either of you any favors. Put on a snaffle bit so you can push him into the bit. Pushing him into a curb does not give release, don't try it with that bit.

    I think once you have that you need to work on getting his weight off his forehand (may never be perfect depending on his confo but good to work on) and just start basic training and you will be fine!
    Thank you for the reply, I do have this snaffle is this ok to use for lower level?
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        04-03-2014, 06:52 PM
      #6
    Green Broke
    That seems more "rushed" then "extended", esp see how he keeps on trying to break to a canter?

    He is super cute btw :)

    I would stop putting any pressure on him in that bit. It is not designed for a constant contact..

    Does he like the bit?

    They make English Mylers (I don't know which are legal for dressage though)




    I would suggest just a plain snaffle though



    Or is he needs something extra



    I like eggbutts, but don't really know all the technical differences... Definitely get a plain old snaffle though, no shanks. Don't ride in contact until you have a snaffle.

    If he goes well in that bit he may just like another Myler, though again, I think some are legal and some are not.
         
        04-03-2014, 06:53 PM
      #7
    Green Broke
    You beat me to it!!

    If you already have that bit and he likes it use it.

    I'm pretty sure that's legal.. it's pretty basic, but I don't want to say anything untrue lol.

    No reason not to try it for the time being.
         
        04-03-2014, 06:58 PM
      #8
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yogiwick    
    That seems more "rushed" then "extended", esp see how he keeps on trying to break to a canter?

    He is super cute btw :)

    I would stop putting any pressure on him in that bit. It is not designed for a constant contact..

    Does he like the bit?

    They make English Mylers (I don't know which are legal for dressage though)




    I would suggest just a plain snaffle though



    Or is he needs something extra



    I like eggbutts, but don't really know all the technical differences... Definitely get a plain old snaffle though, no shanks. Don't ride in contact until you have a snaffle.

    If he goes well in that bit he may just like another Myler, though again, I think some are legal and some are not.

    Thanks again for the reply, ya he was a little rushed he hasn't really done a fast paced trot he used to do western pleasure so he does an awesome jog but is slowly catching on to do a fast pace trot we've only been working on it a few days, and I will try that bit with him thanks for the info and thanks he is a cutie lol (: Oh and another question do you think he really has potential to do low level stuff? If I have an instructor
         
        04-03-2014, 07:15 PM
      #9
    Green Broke
    He was trying to do what you wanted, it was cute.

    Your instructor can help you more than I can with extending.. fast is good, but for true extension you really need him to stretch out as opposed to go faster.

    If it works, awesome, if not try a Myler. As long as he likes it. Your instructor should be able to suggest a dressage legal bit. I would suggest keeping an eye on his mouth though, you may want some bit guards for a loose ring so it doesn't pinch.



    (Did not realize how many different colors those things came in...cool!!)

    Well I already said so... :P

    Honestly I think pretty much any horse that is not lame or deformed or mental (lol) can do low level of pretty much anything, dressage included/especially (jumping say is a little more strenuous).

    I also think that your boy in particular will do just fine. Especially if you have a good instructor. He can do it, and I see no reason why he couldn't do it very well in a relaxed non competitive way (not saying you won't win, but it doesn't sound like your goal is to advance, more to have fun).

    I think he would do just fine for a fun lower level competition horse. As anebel said, western dressage is becoming more popular too so that may also be a good alternative too. The biggest thing I see is him being on his forehand, which is a very common challenge and something your instructor will help you with (some horses have more trouble than others, it's all on build). Putting a snaffle on him will let you really push him into the contact and get more control/self carriage (will help with the heaviness) and eventually collection. He is looking good now, I think a snaffle will make a great difference. Push him into your hands and ask him to give.. let him get soft and round and forward.

    Just for the record, my friend is doing USDF upper level dressage on her 28 year old QH that looks just like your boy :)

    Morgans can do just about anything :)
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        04-03-2014, 07:35 PM
      #10
    Green Broke
    I don't see any reason why you couldn't do low level dressage, especially since you say you'll have help from an instructor.

    I don't really see much of an extension in the video either, but I really wouldn't worry about it this point. You don't do extended gaits until 3rd level, though you do lengthenings at 1st level. These are similar and often confused, but there is definitely a difference between the two (part of dressage is learning just how many subtle differences there are between movements )

    But where you'll start (Intro and Training level) it's really less about specific movements and more about getting the basics of rhythm, relaxation, and starting on a good connection.
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