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post #31 of 37 Old 06-26-2013, 03:10 PM
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post #32 of 37 Old 06-27-2013, 07:22 AM Thread Starter
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The vehicle is a "sociable" of European origins. The squared 90% corners, lack of curved lines, and strong "utilitarian" aspect are typical of the vehicles made and found on the continent. US and English vehicles tended to have rounded curves and more "flair" to their design. They also tended to accomodate 4 passengers in a back to back arrangement, or two seats facing forward, as the "sociable" or "vis-a-vis" (French for "face to face") wasn't one of the more popular vehicles in the US/England because they usually demanded a coachman.There were a few US vehicles made to be driven privately by the owner which featured dash seats, but those generally had small "foot stool" type seats that folded down when needed and were flipped up out of sight when not used.

In this vehicle pictured the driver sat in the seat facing the horses (this vehicle was designed for a pair BTW), and any guests sat either next to the driver, or in the back facing seat. It isn't a child's carriage, or designed specifically for children. It was designed simply to accomodate 4 passengers. And it wasn't a gender specific carriage - it could equally be used by a lady or a gentleman.

I'm not sure you'll find a date on the axle, hub, or wheel. You might, however, look under the seat, or on the body framing to see if a number is stamped there. Depending upon what you find, the CAA may be able to help you ascertain if the number is clue to one of the European carriage manufacturers.

Wow, thank you so much for all the information. That was great! I haven't heard back from any of the "Professional" sales places and do not think I will hear back anything either. Unfortunatly the weather is pretty bad here in the Netherlands (europe) so I haven't been able to do any work on it anymore. We are hoping the weather will turn around and we will finally get some summer over here so I can get started on it again. I love all the information on it. Thank you once again
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Do you have any European auction sites that you could check? Also, you might check with Girard . He is Dutch, but lives in Canada now. His email is info@idealharness.com Pieter Franken may be able to help, too. You will have to google Dutch Horse Friends...I think that is it.

Sorry they have not gotten back to you! HTH,

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Do you have any European auction sites that you could check? Also, you might check with Girard . He is Dutch, but lives in Canada now. His email is info@idealharness.com Pieter Franken may be able to help, too. You will have to google Dutch Horse Friends...I think that is it.

Sorry they have not gotten back to you! HTH,

Nancy
Thank you so much! I will definitely contact him. I will do that right away.
We have Ebay in Holland and another second hand sales website butnot real auction websites I believe. I will have to look into that.
So far still no one has gotten back to me yet and the weather is still awfull over here so the carriage has not been out of the garage anymore
Where did the summer run off too? Is it camping in the US maybe
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post #35 of 37 Old 07-07-2013, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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Finally the weather was nice enough to take the carriage out of the garage and start working on it
I managed to re-paint the wheels and use an organic flax seed oil especially made for sealing wood to paint over all the wood. The carriage looks amazing right now and shines as if new.
I do have a few questions some of you may be able to answer for me: The wheels are made from rubber (the outside I mean, the part rolling on the road) and don't look to great. Can I paint those or just wash them very well?
The other question is: The green fabric is damaged at some parts a bit. Will it pay off to re-furnish it with new fabric or is it not worth it and best to let the person buying it do it?
Does the carriage go down in value a lot leaving the fabric as it is?
Thank you in advance for your help on my journey
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If it were mine, I would leave the upholstery the was it is, You can run into a lot of money redoing it. I would leave it and let the buyer deal with it. Unless the carriage looks like it is going to be worth a lot of money, I do not think you will get your money back in the selling price. Leave the rubber on the wheels as is, you can clean it with Armor-all.
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If it were mine, I would leave the upholstery the was it is, You can run into a lot of money redoing it. I would leave it and let the buyer deal with it. Unless the carriage looks like it is going to be worth a lot of money, I do not think you will get your money back in the selling price. Leave the rubber on the wheels as is, you can clean it with Armor-all.
Thank you, I will see if Armor-all is available on the Netherlands. At least something similar will be.
I thought that re-doing the fabric may make it go up in value, but if not then there is no use in us putting more time and money into that.
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