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    03-03-2008, 03:10 PM
I don't think you'd be letting him win if he's not cut out to pull a cart. That just like some horses are cut out to jump, or do reining. Would you push a horse that wasn't cut out to rein, to do reining?

If you must make him pull a cart, why don't you start by dragging all sorts of things behind him. Logs, buckets, etc. It might help him.
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    03-03-2008, 05:35 PM
From what she has said, she has pulled all sorts of stuff behind him. It is the Shafts that freak him out(correct?)

You could try a shaft trainer(basically the same thing as the indian shafts above only they don't extend down to drag along the ground). The shafts make .a horse very claustrophobic because they are constant. Your pony has learned if he bolts forward, he can escape being trapped between two scary poles. If he turns, they are there. If he walks off, they are there.
I prefer the wood design of my father because it does put a little weight on it and it doesn't

Keep in mind that driving is more dangerous than riding, pretty much because of the cart. If you get bounced out, or if the cart flips, or if you hook him too close(or the cart shifts foreward), or if he gets the reins caught under his tail, there is a higer chance of it ending in disaster or even the death of your horse. (seen it all)

A horse a the World Championships died this year in a class supposedly because they hooked him too close.
    03-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Green Broke
He has pulled a sand drag, a sled, and other things, but the shaves are his problem. We have had PBC pipe on him, dragging or not. He is fine with that. Its just the cart shaves.
    03-31-2008, 03:51 PM
How is it coming along with your pony?
    04-02-2008, 10:51 AM
Green Broke
Haven't hooked him to a cart yet. Gound driving is so simple to him now, he knows what to do with everything. All we need now is someones junk cart that they arn't scared that it will get trashed
    08-10-2008, 11:53 PM
Maybe something happened in the 3 years he was gone that you don't know about???? Could an accident have happened with somenoe trying to drive him while he was gone?
My mini had an accident in a cart once and he took 6 months off before he'd accept me hooking him back up.

    08-13-2008, 09:27 AM
Someone living close to me has a couple of lod Amish buggies they are trying to sell----they may be cheap enough to use for your situation. I live close to Butler, IN. How far are you from there?
    08-13-2008, 04:37 PM
I have longed miniatures with a cart on before. In always did it after we got them ground driving good and we had ground drove with a cart on them for a few days, it is a good way to get them use to the weight of the cart at a trot before you jump on the cart. I have dealt with these kind of miniature before that would either run away or they would lay down once the cart is one them. I always would find a way to get the cart on the horse, even if it was just enough that is he would freak out it would come off and we would tie them up with my one mare who doesn't care about anything. We have used the idea of making shafts out of trees and 2x4's, it works great also. If the pony bolts I would make the shafts with the trees because it is an inexpensive way to have something that looks just like cart shafts on them, and if they gert tore up it is no big deal. On these once he is use to wearing the tree shafts, then you can add sand bags for weight to represent the cart/person riding behind him. I had a mare once who did this and it all came down to the horse was terrified of what was behind her because she could not see it and she must have thought it would eat her or something. Can you get two ro three people to help you? If you can get two people to hold the horse while someone else tries to hook up the cart. If the horse freaks, then givehim a second to calm down a try it again. I think since he has gotten away with it for this long now, he knows that everyone will give up if he runs! Then there he is again not having to so the hard work. I may be wrong though because I do not know the horse personally.
    10-17-2008, 07:52 PM
The man I learned to drive from, would hitch his horses to something very, very heavy, that they could NOT run with. Pull, yes, but not run away with. Perhaps that would help you. Don't let him feel the weight of the shafts until he's hitched to the cart and attach something heavy, like a large log or a telephone pole, to the cart. That way he can't run, and will have to deal with it.
    10-22-2008, 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by .Delete.    
Stud chain, lip chain, twich. I have tried it all, he still bolts. He has done everything but had a cart literally on him. We have pulled it behind him and blahblahblah. He has blinders, no blinders, ect.

Why would you force him with a stud chain, lip chain, twitch? If he is frightened of the shafts, work him thorough it with patience, not with force through a stud chain, twitch, ect.

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