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post #1 of 21 Old 12-06-2010, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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Driving Harnessing Help

I've been driving horses for about 3 years now, and I can drive a 2-horse team of percherons between two cones 6 feet apart. I can harness, untangle and adjust just about anything on those said percherons' collar-style harnesses, so when I bought my first driving, breatplate-style harness I figured it would be easy enough as I had seen enough pictures of driving harnesses before.

And while my lovely TB stood oh so patiently with me, letting me arrange and then rearrange everything on his back so that it looked like the pictures I'd seen I came across a part of the harness that baffles me.

The surcingle goes around his belly, and the crupper is attached to the surcingle. The breeching strap goes nicely around his butt, with a forked piece of nylon that goes up and over his hindquarters to attach to the breeching strap on the other side. I assume it's made this way to hold the breeching strap up, but what I don't understand is that it just sits there, and when I go to drive my horse (I haven't yet tried hitching him to anything) the whole piece slips and starts dangling, caught on the crupper. On all the other harnesses I've worked with the nylon strap holding the breeching strap up is attached to the strap going to the crupper, but this one seems to have no way of attaching to that strap... does anyone else have a harness like this? Will this piece "fix itself" when the horse is in the shafts? Or did I get a ill-made harness?

I've got an image of the place I'm talking about not being connected here, unfortunately though I have no pictures of the actual harness yet.


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post #2 of 21 Old 12-06-2010, 04:23 PM
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Mine have a slot that it slides into so it doesn't flop around. Do you have a real photo?
I have never seen one that was free moving.
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post #3 of 21 Old 12-06-2010, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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I'm going to try to take a photo wednesday of it.

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post #4 of 21 Old 12-08-2010, 02:09 AM
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we ran into this issue with my harness for 4-H, I have a show pleasure type harness which comes without breeching in the mini world so when they made it mandatory I had to finagle my breeching into place. I used black zip-ties to hold the strap on the backstrap. Not that i'm saying it's a good idea, but it worked for me...
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post #5 of 21 Old 12-09-2010, 03:53 PM
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(Excuse me if I misread your post)

Are you saying there is no strap that runs, basically up your horses spine, from the breeching that attaches to a water-hook in the middle of your saddle (surcingle)?

If that is missing, I would contact the place you purchased it from, there most certainly should be a strap there.....

Here is a pretty decent picture of my little Me Jo all hooked up, I think you can see the strap I am talking about pretty good.
Hope that helps some?

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(Excuse me if I misread your post)

Are you saying there is no strap that runs, basically up your horses spine, from the breeching that attaches to a water-hook in the middle of your saddle (surcingle)?

If that is missing, I would contact the place you purchased it from, there most certainly should be a strap there.....

Here is a pretty decent picture of my little Me Jo all hooked up, I think you can see the strap I am talking about pretty good.
Hope that helps some?

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Why do you have your strap for the breast collar up where the overcheck goes? And your noseband looks abnormally high.
Also your breeching is not properly hooked up. How do you stop the cart from hitting the pony? I hope this is not a flinstones type braking system.

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The strap going back to the crupper from the saddle is there, as is the strap going up and over the horse's hindquarters (the one with the fork ends)... it just doesn't attach were the two straps cross over the horse's hindquarters, and thus it slips down and lets the breeching fall out of place...

I like the zip-tie idea... I've held more than one piece of horse-equiptment together with them! Why not add one more to the list XD

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post #8 of 21 Old 12-11-2010, 04:15 PM
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yup :) I use them for lots on the harness, like on the picture of the mini that SLCS posted I use them to hold back the neck strap on the breast collar and as trace loops on the cart...LOVE Zipties and they are way easier/leave less nasty damage then electrical tape. Also used one in and emergency to hook my overcheck when the loop broke in a class :)
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Oh, hmmm, I see now, I was mis-understanding.....
When I read your last post, and went back and looked at your attached image, made sense finally.
Strange for it to have come like that?
Anyway, yes zip ties sound like a good inexpensive fix.

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Oh, hmmm, I see now, I was mis-understanding.....
When I read your last post, and went back and looked at your attached image, made sense finally.
Strange for it to have come like that?
Anyway, yes zip ties sound like a good inexpensive fix.

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Spirited I was hoping you would answer my post on why you do not ahve your pony properly harnessed
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