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  • How to set up breeching on a driving harness
  • Footmans loop is how far in front of crossbar

 
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    12-13-2010, 04:08 PM
  #11
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by churumbeque    
Spirited I was hoping you would answer my post on why you do not ahve your pony properly harnessed
Oh, sorry, missed that post!
This is just a snap I took of him the first time we had this harness on him. It still needed some adjustments, holes punched etc. to fit properly.
My impatient/over excited hubby wanted to hook him up real quick to the training chariot (just ground driving from behind) to see how he was coming along, so no, the breeching is not hooked up as it would have been other wise....
This is definitely not a pic displaying proper set-up, just the easiest one I could find to ask my strap question with.


     
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    01-20-2012, 12:12 PM
  #12
Foal
Hi
I am not of any help
But im looking to buy another harness and cart for my pony my friend hooked my pony up a couple of years ago with there harness and I really want to get back in to it. However the harness we used couple year back I can't seem to find one similar.... can someone tell me the type of harness it is or even if it is a suitable harness at all any help will be appreciated
     
    01-20-2012, 06:07 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by HelenRebecca    
Hi
I am not of any help
But im looking to buy another harness and cart for my pony my friend hooked my pony up a couple of years ago with there harness and I really want to get back in to it. However the harness we used couple year back I can't seem to find one similar.... can someone tell me the type of harness it is or even if it is a suitable harness at all any help will be appreciated
Some [pieces look to be missing. The saddle is very narrow for a 2 wheel cart, that is why they have the pad. It also should have the rear breeching
     
    01-21-2012, 10:06 AM
  #14
Showing
The setup ouround the base of the pony's neck is also incorrect and could cause problems. He needs a wide padded strap that goes around the point of his shoulders for pulling. If it was heavier than a card he'd need a collar setup.
Google driving harness and lots of info should show up. They are made of nylon webbing, leather and biothane-a leather look material.. Also the shafts should be lower on the pony with the ends close to the point of his shoulder. This will move him back a little and put the cart in better balance. Breeching, a strap which encircles the hindquarers stops the cart from crawling forward on a hill. Every piece on a harness plays an important roll. If a strap is holding something up, then another will hold it down. If one pulls forward, another counters that. Althogether they keep everything in balance.
     
    01-21-2012, 10:57 AM
  #15
Yearling
I think I understand what you are talking about. The harness I have does not have anything for the reins to connect there, either. When I am driving it works just fine, but ground driving the reins get caught underneath some of the things on the side.

If you cannot tell from my lack of terminology, I am not very experienced. I will attach a picture of my harness, but keep in mind this was our first time hooking up a horse to drive and driving. Plus she hadn't been driven in years and we were cold and just wanted to get her going. Next time we will take more care in hooking it up correctly.
     
    01-21-2012, 11:37 AM
  #16
Green Broke
Butt in the dirt, your harness is also hooked up incorrectly. It is hard to see but I think I am correct in saying you breeching straps are attached to the saddle, belly band, shaft loop area. The breeching straps should be attached to the shafts at the foolman's loops,( the hardware under the shafts between the crossbar and shaft tips). It looks like you have attached your girth wrap straps (the outer girth that comes up wraps around the shafts and buckles back to itself) to the footmans loops, I wrap the wrap straps around the shafts once infront of the shaft loops (where the shafts go through the harness to hold them up) and once behind the shaft loops. That holds them together. I had noticed in your other thread that they had separated in a few photos, that area (wrap staps & shaft loops) should not move back and forth on the shafts at all. Yours look like they should be placed about 6-7" in front of the footman's loops.
When I harness I like my horse very snug in the harness there is only about 3-4" of movement when you move the cart forwards and backwards. That way the vehicle does not BANG into them. When the horse is troting its rump comes in full contact with the breeching, not tight but touching. Also when your horse first walks off there is not a lot of daylight between horse and breeching, when horse is standing can put a fist between horse and breeching not more.
I hope you can understand my explanations. Your horse is great.
     
    01-21-2012, 11:42 AM
  #17
Green Broke
Perchies kisses I would mark the spot you want your hip strap to cross the back stap and take it to a shoe repair place and have them attach a piece of leather on to hold the hip strap in place. Some fine harness doesn't come with breeching so your breeching could have been an after purchase.
     
    01-21-2012, 12:16 PM
  #18
Foal
Thanks

Thanks for all the advice
     
    01-21-2012, 04:20 PM
  #19
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
Butt in the dirt, your harness is also hooked up incorrectly. It is hard to see but I think I am correct in saying you breeching straps are attached to the saddle, belly band, shaft loop area. The breeching straps should be attached to the shafts at the foolman's loops,( the hardware under the shafts between the crossbar and shaft tips). It looks like you have attached your girth wrap straps (the outer girth that comes up wraps around the shafts and buckles back to itself) to the footmans loops, I wrap the wrap straps around the shafts once infront of the shaft loops (where the shafts go through the harness to hold them up) and once behind the shaft loops. That holds them together. I had noticed in your other thread that they had separated in a few photos, that area (wrap staps & shaft loops) should not move back and forth on the shafts at all. Yours look like they should be placed about 6-7" in front of the footman's loops.
When I harness I like my horse very snug in the harness there is only about 3-4" of movement when you move the cart forwards and backwards. That way the vehicle does not BANG into them. When the horse is troting its rump comes in full contact with the breeching, not tight but touching. Also when your horse first walks off there is not a lot of daylight between horse and breeching, when horse is standing can put a fist between horse and breeching not more.
I hope you can understand my explanations. Your horse is great.
I will take any advice that I can get. But can I ask you to really dumb this down for me? I understand each of the parts somewhat but in a fluent sentence I loose all grasp of what I know. Dx Looking at the pictures I can tell the harness is fairly loose, but all in all it was a fairly good run. Nothing went catostrophically wrong so their is always room for improvement.
     
    01-22-2012, 09:06 AM
  #20
Green Broke
[QUOTE=ButtInTheDirt;1319353]I will take any advice that I can get. But can I ask you to really dumb this down for me? I understand each of the parts somewhat but in a fluent sentence I loose all grasp of what I know. Dx Looking at the pictures I can tell the harness is fairly loose, but all in all it was a fairly good run. Nothing went catostrophically wrong so their is always room for improvement.[/QUOTE
]http://www.discover-horse-carriage-driving.com/driving-video.htm

Here are some instructional video's that should get you going in the right direction.
     

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