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        12-14-2013, 10:09 AM
      #41
    Foal
    Also on the subject of the original post, is driving dangerous? It can be. It's very different from riding in a lot of ways. When I first got hired to drive carriages downtown, I went in with the impression that it wouldn't be that different and it would be easy to learn. It is easy to learn, but it's also VERY different. It amazes me because we drive horses that you couldn't pay me to ride. The mare I drive at work spooks very easily. She has a habit of rearing in the shafts, she gets very crow hoppy when she's upset about something, and makes the most atrocious faces as we're going down the road. All that being said, I love driving her. She keeps me on my toes and she's the easiest horse to drive when she's not acting up. I don't know how other people drive, but our horses are trained vocally. They understand step means go, woah means stop, even left and right. My gelding doesn't listen to me half as well as our work ponies do. (I say ponies like they aren't Clydesdales and Percherons hehe.)

    Really it's just different with it's own inherent risks. If you stay SAFE then you'll absolutely love driving. :)
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        12-14-2013, 12:32 PM
      #42
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roux    
    4. At the end did the man with the rope do something to break the cart free from the horse? Does any one know if the second horse ever got up, it looks like it tripped on its tack? :(

    No, he didn't. If you watch closely, you can see the horse it now straddling the left shaft. So the other shaft is now at an angle with the right shaft pointing to the wall. Since the wall is smooth, if the tip touched the wall, it would slide along, but the gate caught it and stopped the cart dead. The horse broke the harness and then fell when it got caught in his/her legs.

    I had to watch that part a couple of times to see why the cart stopped all of the sudden...
         
        12-29-2013, 09:53 PM
      #43
    Weanling
    Driving is definitely more dangerous. You are basically at the mercy of the horse. If it decides to bolt there is little you can do to stop it. When you are on a horse you can feels it's moods and emotions quicker and can react quicker to stop a bolt or a buck by stopping the horse or by bending it around. A buck or two aboard a horse is not usually too serious for the experienced rider. It can be catastrophic when the horse is hitched to a cart. When a horse is out of control hitched to a cart then the vehicle becomes a deadly weapon. Driving horses need to be trained to a level where their obedience is almost absolutely reflexive. That said, horses that take to the harness willingly are often more easy to train than saddle horses and really enjoy their work.
         
        12-30-2013, 04:49 PM
      #44
    Yearling
    is driveing more dangerous.

    Well life in genral is crossing the street driveing a car ect.
    All you have to rember is with the horse enjoy what you have and if something happens well that's life even ridden or driven horses are a dangerous hobby.
    The long and shought of it is whats the risk ?
    Not willing to take the risk then all I can say is vegitate.
    Explore and find out for your self.
    The main thing is fear of the unone grab the nettle you only live once enjoy and enjoy your horses even if there driven or ridden.
    Even geting a horse from a paddock or feild can be a risky buisness I ended up with a fracturd shoulder and a kick in the head.
    I still love horses and it will take more than that to put me off.
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        12-30-2013, 05:05 PM
      #45
    Yearling
    The video posted of the Arabian driving class gone wrong was not a common occurrence at shows. Does it happen from time to time? Sure, and horse spook while being ridden as well. The horse in question was stung by bees as others have mentioned. Nobody was really hurt bad and all the horses were alright. It is scary to see and many people make it far worse by panicking. Screaming when the horse runs doesn't calm the horse down. Running in front of a horse that is running out of fear is not a good move (as seen in the video) you can get run over. If everyone had just calmed down, and quit screaming, it would likely have not gotten quite so out of control.

    I will never forget walking into the arena area at the Saddlebred Futurity horse show in Milwaukee. It was the 2 year old fine harness class. Several of them literally tried to jump up into the grand stands, one jumped on the cart in front of him, another flipped over backward all in just a few minutes. Thankfully, there was a lot of experience horse people there and the whole situation was contained and controlled easily.

    Driving is an absolute blast and I highly recommend you do it. I also highly recommend that you take MANY driving lessons and get help with your horse to make sure that it is trained correctly before attempting to drive him/her. Don't let a bad video or even scary stories hold you back. Instead think of what fun you will miss if you don't try it. Get the right help and use the right precautions and have fun.
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        01-12-2014, 09:17 AM
      #46
    Foal
    We'll might as well quite driving a car because of all the wrecks out there
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        01-17-2014, 10:55 AM
      #47
    Foal
    I'm new here, but want to add my thoughts on this:

    I learned to ride about 6 years ago (I'll be 59 very soon) and LOVE it! I bought an older horse who knows more than I do and she has basically taught me to ride. (with the help of experienced "horse people" of course).

    So, when a friend told me about a team of horses, very experienced, who the owner, due to health reasons, was selling, I had to go and check them out. I'd ridden several times in friends wagons and even did a bit of driving then, so I already knew I loved it as well.

    The team hadn't been hooked up in over a year, but when harnessed and hooked up to the wagon, they walked off like they'd just been doing that yesterday. Before his failing health, their owner had put a lot of miles on them, even using them to plow sometimes. Along with some very knowledgable friends, this team has taught me to drive.

    I highly recommend trying it! Especially as we get older, it can be kinder to the back and butt. LOL! But I also agree with everything that's been said above.
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        01-17-2014, 12:57 PM
      #48
    Weanling
    I think that a lot of the trouble people get into is by not taking the time or not having the knowledge to properly prepare their horse for the task that in front of it....or in this case behind it. I would never hook a horse that had not been driven for a year to a vehicle without first longing it and ground driving it. Proper longing commands respect from the horse and obedience to your commands. Ground driving is a review and refresher of what the horse did a year ago. Oh yeah! I remember this. Then you are not hooking the horse up cold and the chances of a blowup are greatly reduced. Hooking up cold like this is not really fair to the horse either. I belong to a driving club and I cringe every spring when members that should know better hook their horses that haven't been driven for six months up cold and then have control problems. As a club we are supposed to be promotong safety, for crying out loud! That said, this sounds like a wonderful team and evidently the man knew his horses. I also don't get on my horse cold after he has not been ridden for a while. It's just good common sense horsemanship. We have snow and ice on the ground and it's difficult to do anything in below freezing weather. The other day when I went to feed my horse he was so excited to see me that he bucked around his paddock three revolutions. That was when I said, "Fine, if you can do that without falling down you can longe. " By the way, I am 14 years up on you Kati.
         
        01-25-2014, 02:23 PM
      #49
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
    That horse was stung by a bee. It was not the horse's fault
    Utter rubbish!
    Even if it had been stung by a bee it would not react the way it did and, as it was so uptight when first going around the idiot of a driver should have taken it from the class.

    In the UK it is expensive to insure for driving, comes in the same bracket as three day eventing, point to pointing and hunting. This is because there are ao many accidents with carts scratching cars.

    Realistically if a horse gets loose without a rider it is not likely to panic, if a horse gets loose with a cart attached, especially if it has turned over, the chances of panic are a lot higher and a horse running loose with a demon behind it, is not a pretty sight.

    I love driving but have not done a great deal.
         
        01-25-2014, 03:58 PM
      #50
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Foxhunter    
    Utter rubbish!
    Even if it had been stung by a bee it would not react the way it did and, as it was so uptight when first going around the idiot of a driver should have taken it from the class.

    In the UK it is expensive to insure for driving, comes in the same bracket as three day eventing, point to pointing and hunting. This is because there are ao many accidents with carts scratching cars.

    Realistically if a horse gets loose without a rider it is not likely to panic, if a horse gets loose with a cart attached, especially if it has turned over, the chances of panic are a lot higher and a horse running loose with a demon behind it, is not a pretty sight.

    I love driving but have not done a great deal.
    I also get so tired of hearing people say it got stung by a bee. Very unlikely and people are just trying to attribute it to something
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