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        11-25-2013, 11:08 PM
      #111
    Foal
    Here's a link to a guy in the US that makes ultralight graphite whips. I have a shorter one for single driving and a longer one for team driving and love them both. They're very well balanced and really lightweight. About $60 for a standard length. Here's the website:

    *www.ultralitewhips.com - Home
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        11-26-2013, 08:46 AM
      #112
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by smartsquared    
    Here's a link to a guy in the US that makes ultralight graphite whips. I have a shorter one for single driving and a longer one for team driving and love them both. They're very well balanced and really lightweight. About $60 for a standard length. Here's the website:

    *www.ultralitewhips.com - Home


    Great! Thanks, I don't use the two I brought home from Germany Because I am afraid I will break one. Silly I know. Like not wearing your new boots because you might scuff them.

    Now I can get another whip so I can use the ones I have. Ridiculous!
         
        11-26-2013, 02:04 PM
      #113
    Foal
    A few years ago I bought a nice little driving whip for my friend off ebay, it cost about 20 including postage.... although so cheap it was so nice I wish I had thought to buy a couple more at the time.
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        12-02-2013, 09:58 AM
      #114
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    Hi, all, may I join? :) My horse is of a national carriage breed (Latvian Harness horse, also called Latvian Warblood, light draft type), 7yo, with a talent and passion in the basics of driving, but I am yet to hitch him to a sleigh or a cart. I was hoping to get a cart this summer, however, my plans failed, but I am now waiting for a sleigh to be delivered. Other than that, he is great at ground driving and has pulled different contraptions with ease, so I am really looking forwards to be driving for real! I will be using an oldschool Eastern European type of harness and am gathering all the tack piece by piece. Now just for the sleigh - and some snow! - to arrive.

    Meanwhile, here's his wooly bum while ground driving in trails. Also, we do everything bitless.

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        12-03-2013, 09:08 AM
      #115
    Started
    Absolutely, Welcome!!!

    I am still looking for that Eastern European pair harness for my carriage with the high pole!

    You will really enjoy the sleigh! We tried to get one of ours restored, but the man said it could take him TWO YEARS!!! I would forget where it WAS in two years!!

    Nancy
         
        12-03-2013, 10:58 AM
      #116
    Cat
    Green Broke
    I wish I could use a sleigh, but we don't get enough snow around here.
         
        12-04-2013, 05:33 AM
      #117
    Super Moderator
    Thanks for the warm welcoming! :) Nancy, you are thinking of this kind of harness, right? -



    That's my preference as well, and also most drivers around here use this harness, except for those who do driving professionally and compete. However, driving in Latvia is still not popular enough and only over the last few years there has been some development. Mostly it's because it's quite expensive to get all the equipment, especially, if you want a nice, new cart/sleigh, and our economy is honestly not that great - not everyone can afford it. I'm getting everything second hand as well.
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        12-04-2013, 08:04 AM
      #118
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    Oh my gosh, Saranda, thank you for that great close-up picture!! They do not use traces....the collar is attached to the hoop, then to the shafts....am I seeing that correctly?

    Would you happen to have a picture of a pair hitched this way?

    I am not so sure my Arabians are going to go for a wooden collar, though, lol!

    Thanks again!

    Nancy
         
        12-04-2013, 09:36 AM
      #119
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    We use traces if backing up or going down a hill is expected, but we don't really need them in simple everyday situations. I, for instance, do have traces, but I know I won't be using them functionally, because I would be driving over a very flat terrain - dirt and paved roads mainly. For me, they mostly are for looks. Yes, the collar is attached to the hoop via a small leather buckle at the top of the collar going through a metal ring at the top of the hoop, and then to the straight shafts. The shafts have little dents in them where the leathers of the collar go over, so that they stay in place better.

    The collar is cushioned with fabric and wool, or with leather and wool, but it is quite heavy, indeed - though not as heavy if it is made for a smaller horse. I deal with the larger breeds and sometimes feel crushed when carrying a larger collar.

    Not really a closeup, but here's the same setup from behind:


    Front:



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        12-04-2013, 09:38 AM
      #120
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    I can't seem to find a useful picture of a double harness, but I'll look some more.

    Meanwhile, you might find of use these videos. They are all in Latvian, so I'm afraid you won't understand them, but they show the parts of an Eastern European harness and how to properly hitch a horse up in one.

    GANI.LV video
    GANI.LV video

    And here's another closeup, although the collar has slipped too high on the horses' throat - my guess is that it is vertically too big for the horse -


         

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