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  • Well trained driving horses
  • Driving a pony without blinkers

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    01-25-2012, 05:49 PM
  #11
Foal
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Originally Posted by welshrider    
I have trained many ponies and not a few horses to drive. Because the potential for bad accidents is higher with a driving horse, it needs to be 100% before it ever gets out in the open, or even driven in an arena.

I think your pony needs to be restarted by a competant driving trainer. You can't train a horse to drive just because you know how to ride. Can you find someone who drives who can help you. If a driver trained your horse, you really need to find someone else.

Since it sounds to me like you are a novice, I would suggest that you take some lessons with a really well trained driving horse.

If you look on the American Driving Society website, you can probably find a driving club near you, where you can get good information and help with your pony.

Driving is a blast, but it can be very dangerous. My neighbour, who is an expeienced horseman and been driving for over 3 years had an terrible accident over Christmas and broke both his legs among other bad injuries.

Last but not least... PLEASE wear a helmet, it could save your life.
Thank You! She was trained by a experienced trainer, but maybe not well enough. Luckily the driver was wearing a helmet. We will always wear helmets it is much much much safer, I agree with you. Thank You, and I think getting her retrained will help her a lot.
     
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    01-29-2012, 10:08 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by welshrider    
I have trained many ponies and not a few horses to drive. Because the potential for bad accidents is higher with a driving horse, it needs to be 100% before it ever gets out in the open, or even driven in an arena.

I think your pony needs to be restarted by a competant driving trainer. You can't train a horse to drive just because you know how to ride. Can you find someone who drives who can help you. If a driver trained your horse, you really need to find someone else.

Since it sounds to me like you are a novice, I would suggest that you take some lessons with a really well trained driving horse.

If you look on the American Driving Society website, you can probably find a driving club near you, where you can get good information and help with your pony.

Driving is a blast, but it can be very dangerous. My neighbour, who is an expeienced horseman and been driving for over 3 years had an terrible accident over Christmas and broke both his legs among other bad injuries.

Last but not least... PLEASE wear a helmet, it could save your life.
200% in agreement with every word
     
    02-04-2012, 07:46 PM
  #13
Foal
I start all mine in an open bridle and then more to blinders when they are going well. Avoided a horrible wreck that way. If you look at the mare in the photo, you'll see that she is competing in an open bridle. She doesn't like the blinders. It's completely legal in any competition, but liable to be discriminated against.
     
    02-05-2012, 07:24 PM
  #14
Banned
The reason why driving horses wear bridles with blinkers is that it cuts down the field of vision and they concentrate on what is in front of them not all around.

I would never ever drive a horse in an open bridle.

As far as I'm aware the ADS does not permit open bridles in any of their sanctioned events.

http://www.americandrivingsociety.or...0Checklist.pdf

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    02-05-2012, 08:32 PM
  #15
Trained
I thought that the blinders were there so that the horse would not run from the cart that to his mind with his prey/preditor instincts is pursuing him. The instinct to run when chased is great so an open bridle is dangerous. Is this not the idea?
     
    02-05-2012, 08:48 PM
  #16
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Blinkers shut down the big screen of visibility, reduce the reaction from the horse to uncontrollable features in the environment and to unconscious body signals you may give him. The horse is designed to notice these detail things, his survival depends on it, so blinkers close down the vision area allowed.

Then consider that a well-trained driving horse understands and responds appropriately to whip cues. The blinkers prevent the horse from seeing the driving whip and anticipating the whip cue. This is important for any driving horse but especially so for multiples. You don't want to be aiming a whip cue at one horse and having the other(s) see it coming and react when they're not the intended target of the cue.

Riding and driving are very different disciplines. Hooking a wheeled contraption to a horse or horses is a far riskier endeavor than climbing on a horse's back, both for the driver and passengers and for all the innocent bystanders and their property who stand in harm's way when there's a runaway horse and carriage. Blinkers (blinders) have been used for hundreds of years and are used by the most experienced and skilled drivers.

The preference of light harness horse instructors and professionals is to prefer a driving horse to focus on what is happening in front and when you commence driving it can be problematic not having blinkers. And I'd never drive one without. Also dependent on what you intend to do, you may find you have to wear get him in blinkers because of rules. The rules exist BECAUSE it's safer. Whenever folks mention in postings about blinkers on BB's someone always turns up to say they've done it or know someone who does/has. But it's not right and it's not what you should do and it's not what professionals do.

I've heard of the occasional (rare) horse who for one reason or another goes better in an open bridle. But IME its more a case that sometimes people just get warm and fuzzy about letting the horse see everything and the results can be disastrous.

I've known folks who went "open" bridle to drive. All claimed to be experienced drivers and with solid driving horses. It worked for a while. In every instance, horse later saw something, reacted, ended up causing a wreck. Some were modest wrecks, others quite horrific. I don't know any of the wrecked horses who were able to be SAFELY driven again, even in blinkers.
     
    02-07-2012, 09:52 PM
  #17
Foal
As far as I'm aware the ADS does not permit open bridles in any of their sanctioned events.

Fracois Bergeron, Canadian FEI Driver and level 3 driving instructor was the one who told me to keep her in an open bridle. Last summer he finished and place in an FEI competion in the states with his PAIR.
Yes open bridles are entirely legal in any driving competition under FEI, American Driving Society, and Canadian Driving Society rules. You may be penalized against as judges see it as a loack of training,but won't be disqualified.

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    02-08-2012, 02:58 PM
  #18
Weanling
I have a 5yr old working mare that is very headstrong and will pull the arms off you but only when she has,ent been drove for a week or two,after that she settles down,if you don,t drive yours regular and your giving her corn etc etc in the mean time that may be the cause
     
    02-14-2012, 05:49 PM
  #19
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by churumbeque    
Agreed. She is not well trained. Was it 6 weeks from start to finsh? Or 6 solid weeks of just driving. Does she respond to voice commands. I would be taeching that 1st while long lining and then do lots of desensitizing. If she is fine when ridden I would think she may be scared of the cart and taking off.
I Think I will most likely have to send her to a different trainer, and get her retrained.
     
    02-14-2012, 05:53 PM
  #20
Foal
Thank You For all your wonderful comments. I think I need to get her retrained because she is now scared of the cart. That trainer was a waste of MONEY!!
     

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