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        06-08-2012, 08:17 AM
      #31
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by churumbeque    
    Your post was confusing and I was thinking you might have typed it wrong also.
    I figured that was an "oops" too, no worries I got the drift just fine. I too suffer from FFFBMTFS (fat fumble finger brain moving too fast syndrome) sometimes when I post things
         
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        06-08-2012, 08:26 AM
      #32
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by DimSum    
    I figured that was an "oops" too, no worries I got the drift just fine. I too suffer from FFFBMTFS (fat fumble finger brain moving too fast syndrome) sometimes when I post things
    LOL never heard it put that way but it is a good way to look at it. I suffer from too much coffee, brain going too fast and not getting what I am thinking out on here typed out. Glad now you know what I meant to say but didn't put what I wanted.
         
        06-09-2012, 01:56 PM
      #33
    Yearling
    driveing horse problem

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DimSum    
    Hi folks, I'm hoping someone might be able to help me out. I bought my non-horsey hubby an 8 year old Friesian/morgan cross gelding that was used as half a carriage team and shown under cart. I've had him for only a few weeks.

    The gelding has adapted well and has a wonderful sweet disposition. As far as retraining, I am finding some strange "quirks" that I think may be a holdover from driving. I know nothing about driving and am hoping someone who does might post up here.

    When I lunge him to the right, he is his usual calm self. I just walk up, turn him to the right and cluck-he stays on the circle with no problem. However, when I try and go to the left, I.e. I approach him and try to get along his left side he looses his mind and backs up and blows. I mean he flips his head up, quakes and motors backwards all the while keeping his head in line with my body. The first few times...wow he was just a mess. Acted like I was going to kill him if he didn't back up.

    Before anyone asks, his vision is fine according to the vet . In the past few weeks I have gotten him to calm down and am now able to rub the lunge line and the whip on his left side, then I can motion him out though he still blows and takes off doing his huge earth shattering trot for a few minutes until he settles down.

    Could it be that the former owner-whom I can't contact-had some sort of "back up" command? I mean this guy who'd rather sleep than work just about levitates himself back in a straight line.

    Oh, and this only happens when he is hooked to a lunge line, never on a normal lead line or when he is bridled which is why I wonder if it is some sort of command rather than a training issue.
    its a strange one possabley your horse has been beaten and is very aprehensive on the rein you said you have problems on.
    The best bet is to walk beside your new horse lunge him first on the good rein and have some treats with you so you can walk with him on the other.
    Talk to him and when he is going right give him some slack so he feels comftable around you.
    Wean him gentley on that side with titbits and talking to him to build his confedence and in time you shall see results.
    Ask if the other horse was put down near him or it could be the loss of the other that mite have caused the problem.
    With tricky he was with tammy all the step of the way and saw her go and that helped him.
    I think haveing a horse stuck pineing in a field prelongs the process.
    The best way win your horse over and go to his levle then bring him up to yours and youll have a great driveing horse.
         
        06-09-2012, 02:07 PM
      #34
    Yearling
    lunging.

    There could be a problem which has happend on the lunge that could be the course of the problem.
    May be he took off on that rein and got pulled over and hert him self.
    Walk with him on that rein and reasure him and walk him in the circle with 2 of you one in the middle and one with his head to passafie him with titbits work on that rein as it sounds like a resistive movement to get away from something give your self time and him time to when you feel things are going ok stop the session and reward.
    And start again or take him to his stable and let him think what he has done.
    And start another session the next day.
    And he should sort him self out as time goes on.
    Rember start from scratch and repair the dammage which has been done by the previous owner also rember time take your time.
         
        06-09-2012, 02:53 PM
      #35
    Yearling
    Thank you michaelvanessa, I appreciate the additional suggestions.
         
        06-10-2012, 10:05 AM
      #36
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GreySorrel    
    I did type it wrong and could not go back to edit it so I did say here. Thank you Churumbeque for being polite about it.
    The problem with this type of forum is it is easy to get offended. I hate typing so mine are always short and not sugar coated which can seem rude. I didn't take Taffy's comments as rude and when I read your suggestion about a using farrier ( I was thinking "REALLY") I almost wrote something also but forgot about it. So try not to take it personal.
         
        06-10-2012, 10:41 AM
      #37
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by michaelvanessa    
    its a strange one possabley your horse has been beaten and is very aprehensive on the rein you said you have problems on.
    The best bet is to walk beside your new horse lunge him first on the good rein and have some treats with you so you can walk with him on the other.
    Talk to him and when he is going right give him some slack so he feels comftable around you.
    Wean him gentley on that side with titbits and talking to him to build his confedence and in time you shall see results.
    Ask if the other horse was put down near him or it could be the loss of the other that mite have caused the problem.
    With tricky he was with tammy all the step of the way and saw her go and that helped him.
    I think haveing a horse stuck pineing in a field prelongs the process.
    The best way win your horse over and go to his levle then bring him up to yours and youll have a great driveing horse.
    OP said that they had the dentist out to take care of some teeth problems and after the dental issues were sorted out the horse was fine with the moving to the left.
         

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