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    09-23-2012, 01:15 AM
Oh gosh I am so glad to see I haven't messed it all up I kept looking online and saw nothing really but black everything. I was under the impression it may be taboo to change the colors from pilgrim/nun, lol.

I was thinking of one of those full cart covers that velcros on or something like that but a seat cover is brilliant!

I'm cleaning it off tomorrow because I just bought it the other day but I think I am going to do gold/gold leaf the pin stripping and do a dark stain for the carriage wood the varnish it to a high gloss. I think I will keep the shafts black as the paint is in fairly good condition aside from chipping here and there which I think with some touch up would be perfect
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    09-23-2012, 01:19 AM
I'm even more excited about the progress my filly has made she's got gee, haw, over gee, over haw, and back on command pretty good and is working on walk on and trot on command as well. I'm hoping once I find a suitable harness to buy to work on her lead changes but I haven't quite worked her up to that yet.
    09-23-2012, 01:33 AM
Green Broke
I am no expert but I have always had a very difficult time getting all of the paint off of the wood, it seems to penetrate the grain of the wood so deeply it is ( for me and my limited skills) nearly impossible to get off all of the paint. Sometimes you can't go from paint to stain. You might want to try stripping a spot to see how clean you can get the wood, and then try your stain.

It is a huge undertaking, when I refinished my meadowbrook I did not take it all apart. I took the slats off of the floor, make sure you number them, I numbered every one on the bottom left so I knew top from bottom and right from left. I did not take anything else apart.

For your first refinish job, unless you are very handy or have some help, I suggest, don't take the cart all apart. They are not easy to get back together, bolts get stripped and nuts won't come off, screws are stripped. I have sat with an entire sleigh taken apart in my living room for an entire winter, because I needed to replace some wood on the runner, that was a nightmare.
    09-23-2012, 01:40 AM
I only plan on uncrewing the slats in the floor of the carriage but I may even just stain and varnish them screwed into the floor as is now that you mention that lol. The wood in the floor of the carriage is unstained and unvarnished as is so basically it's like plain ol' wood.

For the time being since my filly is so young and I wouldn't even call her green yet I am in no means going to make this show worthy, lol. More of just a project to learn stuff on and then teach my girl with so mostly to just enjoy, I've always wnted my own cart. So when I do the repaint it will for sure be more of a touch up the spots that are chipping and see if I can't stall/stop the chipping because as it stands the only real chipping is on the very edges of the cart.

I'm going to see if I can get automobile paint for the pin stripping so that I don;t have to take the origional red pin striping paint off then probably seal the whole thing with a clear coat by hand and in stages so that I can avoid taking the darned thing apart X-D. Or if I decide to gold leaf it I would use the gold leaf glue over the top of the pin strip then go over teh edges in white enamle paint and clear coat the whole thing.

My mantra about the whole thing is it can't look worse than I got it ha ha ha
    09-23-2012, 01:50 AM
Green Broke
I like your Mantra

You will have a blast with that cart.

There is a very active driving club in Colorado. They are always looking for volunteers, and giving clinics and stuff. I think they are around Greely. They also just have fun drives.

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    09-23-2012, 01:51 AM
Oh boy! Thanks sooo much! I will be checking this driving club out for sure. I didn;t even know it existed
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    09-23-2012, 02:59 PM
Co driving society is based in Parker and caters to the Southside. Rocky Mountain Carriage Club is out of Loveland/Berthoud. They are probably a little more informal and do a fair amount of training and fun drives. I am not a member of either but have done stuff with both groups. They should have a table set up at Harley's Oct 5-6 and you might be able to pick up a work harness for under $100.

As far as the cart goes, it's more correct for the shalves to not be painted if the cart is natural. Car paint is also for metal and not wood.
    09-23-2012, 10:33 PM
This is looking great. What a fine job you are doing.
    09-24-2012, 12:43 AM
Thanks g8tdhorse, I'm very fond of it it's for sure become my newest obsession, lol. I finally found the perfect harness made by smuckers but, I believe it's quite an old model and also needs a bit a love ^.^...

Thanks left hand percherons for the information I was actually planning on heading over to the auction but, now we'll see since I've got my harness.

Thanks also for reminding me about the wood/metal thing, lol. What would you use if you were going to touch up the pain on a cart of this type?
    09-25-2012, 03:44 AM
Again, at Harley's, Voiture Robert will bring a loaded semi of wagons. They are out there thurs touching up the paint when they are setting up. See what they are using and try to buy the leftovers. They don't typically pinstripe in gold but it's worth asking.
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