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  • Bit to tight on horse
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    11-06-2012, 05:53 PM
  #1
Foal
Good Bit for Green Horse and Driver

As most of you know I'm starting to train my mini to drive. Right now I have nhim in an O-ring single joint. He goes good in it but gets bored I think. So I want something with copper and possibly a roller. What are your opinions on these bits?





Which would be better do you think?
     
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    11-07-2012, 09:47 AM
  #2
Green Broke
I am no means a bit expert as I have mentioned before, but It looks as if, in your avitar, on the bridle on your mini the bit is sitting low in his mouth. With the mini nylon bridles it seems as if they are hard to get small enough to fit the minis. So if I was going to look for a different bit, besides keeping your horse content with the bit, I would look for a bit that does not come up so high on the horses cheek, thus making the bridle have a tiny bit more adjustment, maybe one hole.

I find that when I use a D ring snaffle on my harness bridle it on one hole and then if I use a liverpool bit the bridle must be loosened one hole.

I might be mistaken and your bit is sitting fine in your mini's mouth.

As for the bit, I like the snaffle but for the reason I stated above, I think it would make the bridle too big.
As for the bottom bit??????

How about this one? Miniature or Pony French Link Half Cheek | Iowa Valley Carriage
     
    11-07-2012, 12:10 PM
  #3
Showing
Maybe it's just me, but if the horse gets bored, perhaps he needs to have his training livened up instead of a different bit. We've only ever used single jointed O ring snaffles on our driven animals and always had good results.
     
    11-07-2012, 12:18 PM
  #4
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Maybe it's just me, but if the horse gets bored, perhaps he needs to have his training livened up instead of a different bit. We've only ever used single jointed O ring snaffles on our driven animals and always had good results.

I agree, Mental stimulation not oral stimulation.
     
    11-07-2012, 02:06 PM
  #5
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
I am no means a bit expert as I have mentioned before, but It looks as if, in your avitar, on the bridle on your mini the bit is sitting low in his mouth. With the mini nylon bridles it seems as if they are hard to get small enough to fit the minis. So if I was going to look for a different bit, besides keeping your horse content with the bit, I would look for a bit that does not come up so high on the horses cheek, thus making the bridle have a tiny bit more adjustment, maybe one hole.

I find that when I use a D ring snaffle on my harness bridle it on one hole and then if I use a liverpool bit the bridle must be loosened one hole.

I might be mistaken and your bit is sitting fine in your mini's mouth.

As for the bit, I like the snaffle but for the reason I stated above, I think it would make the bridle too big.
As for the bottom bit??????

How about this one? Miniature or Pony French Link Half Cheek | Iowa Valley Carriage

Well heres the same pic but bigger. Is it sitting too low?





Quote:
Originally Posted by smrobs    
Maybe it's just me, but if the horse gets bored, perhaps he needs to have his training livened up instead of a different bit. We've only ever used single jointed O ring snaffles on our driven animals and always had good results.

I'v just never cared for O-rings, with the potential to slide through the mouth and pinch the lips, I haven't had these issues besides sliding through the mouth once on accident. It's the only bit I could find ATM that was his size at my local shop. Doesn't hurt to try something different. Also right now it's wet and muddy so training has pretty much stopped for now and I would like to try something new when we go back to it.
     
    11-07-2012, 02:48 PM
  #6
Green Broke
I still think it is too low. You don't have any "smile lines", I posted a photo of P, I am collecting Photos of Bridles for my next segment of "Harnessing Up" and I found one that shows his "smile lines", I was always told that with a snaffle bit you should have some smile lines.
In P's photo you can't see them very well so I drew them in.

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In this photo of a horse I was trying out you can deffinatly see the smile lines, more than I would have. I even asked the owner if she thought the bridle was too tight, she said no. But it was tighter than I would have, personal preferance.

LUCKY 011.jpg


Another thing that your mini might be having a problem with is ...didn't your harness come with a horse size bit? If you are using that bit, not only will it be too wide but the mouthpiece will be too big around, possibly preventing your horse from closing his mouth with out pressure on the bars of his mouth.
     
    11-07-2012, 03:03 PM
  #7
Foal
Ok thank you Taffy. I'll look for a bit with smaller rings. I see what you meen by smile lines. That seciond photo I agree is too tight. And yes my harness came with a horse size bit but I bought a smaller one(4") and that's whats pictured.

Heres another pic with a different bridle that's tighter. Can't see very well cause he's so hairy but he has smile lines here.
Taffy Clayton likes this.
     
    11-07-2012, 03:52 PM
  #8
Foal
I currently use the second bit pictured, my horses LOVE it. My 5 year old got bored with her bit, went from going nicely in it to gaping mouth, chomping, and trust me she wasn't mentally bored. We did something different almost everytime, and she LOVES to drive. It does have shorter rings then a regular snaffle, so should help with the bit fit issue. Also in the pictures it does look like your current bit is a little too big around for your horse's mouth.


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Originally Posted by ArabianGrace    
As most of you know I'm starting to train my mini to drive. Right now I have nhim in an O-ring single joint. He goes good in it but gets bored I think. So I want something with copper and possibly a roller. What are your opinions on these bits?





Which would be better do you think?
     
    11-07-2012, 06:15 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by smrobs    
Maybe it's just me, but if the horse gets bored, perhaps he needs to have his training livened up instead of a different bit. We've only ever used single jointed O ring snaffles on our driven animals and always had good results.
Yes I am wondering what you mean by bored? If he isn't fussing then that is a good thing.
     
    11-07-2012, 06:17 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adenfire    
I currently use the second bit pictured, my horses LOVE it. My 5 year old got bored with her bit, went from going nicely in it to gaping mouth, chomping, and trust me she wasn't mentally bored. We did something different almost everytime, and she LOVES to drive. It does have shorter rings then a regular snaffle, so should help with the bit fit issue. Also in the pictures it does look like your current bit is a little too big around for your horse's mouth.
Sounds like nerves or possible teeth changing at her age. Holes in the training can show up in mouth activity.
     

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