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post #11 of 19 Old 11-07-2012, 09:11 PM
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Isn't your mini 34" tall or so? If so, he most likely needs a 3 1/2" bit, not a 4". I have a 34 inch and 36 inch mini that I drive and they both wear 3 1/2" bits. I agree that your guy looks like he has a bit too big of a bit still. A 4" is what I use on our 42" tall shetland pony.

I use a single jointed half-cheek snaffle, a french link half cheek snaffle, and a mullen mouth full cheek. I love all of them, but it just depends on the horse for which they prefer. The gelding mini that I use has a rather small palate so he prefers the french link, while my mare goes contentedly in a half cheek.

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Thanks guys for all the info. I'm going to try the second bit I posted at 3 3/4". I had measured his mouth and it's 3" and I was told to give and extra inch for "wiggle room".
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Sounds like nerves or possible teeth changing at her age. Holes in the training can show up in mouth activity.

She should be losing her last set of baby teeth/gaining last set of molars...I've given her some time off just incase, would rather have her happy then fighting her because her mouth hurts. Not the first young horse I've had

What kind of training holes could it be? She's always been mouthy with everything that goes in her mouth, I have her in a half cheek mullen mouth now and she seems to like it, keeps her mouth closed, listens to feather light touch. I hope I don't defensive, I'm just curious because she's the first I've trained by myself from the ground up
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I was never told that, ArabianGrace- though I could be wrong. My mare measures at 3 1/4" and the 3 1/2" fits perfectly and has never looked tight. You don't want a bit to slide around when you pull on it, the pressure that is puts on the mouth will constantly be changing and lopsided.

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She should be losing her last set of baby teeth/gaining last set of molars...I've given her some time off just incase, would rather have her happy then fighting her because her mouth hurts. Not the first young horse I've had

What kind of training holes could it be? She's always been mouthy with everything that goes in her mouth, I have her in a half cheek mullen mouth now and she seems to like it, keeps her mouth closed, listens to feather light touch. I hope I don't defensive, I'm just curious because she's the first I've trained by myself from the ground up
If she is fine in the mullen then why are you asking about changing bits? I don't know what the horse does and how it drives but if they are nervous, confused it can show up in their mouth.

I have no idea what training methods and time you have taken, your experience level and what kind of training you yourself have. I would say that alot of people that drive are not safe and do not have proper fitting equipment. There was a picture on craigs list with a driving pony for sale and they has the over girth wrapped around each front leg. The hip strap was behind the horse and the breeching was on top of the horse just as an example.
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If she is fine in the mullen then why are you asking about changing bits? I don't know what the horse does and how it drives but if they are nervous, confused it can show up in their mouth.

I have no idea what training methods and time you have taken, your experience level and what kind of training you yourself have. I would say that alot of people that drive are not safe and do not have proper fitting equipment. There was a picture on craigs list with a driving pony for sale and they has the over girth wrapped around each front leg. The hip strap was behind the horse and the breeching was on top of the horse just as an example.
I wasn't asking about changing bits, I love that she'll go in the mullen mouth, never had one that liked it. The one issue I've had with her that I haven't with others is that she absolutely NEEDS contact, if you have loose reins at all she tends to panic.

I've seen horses like that on craigslist too...I always think either that horse is a saint, or I hope whoever takes them is more knowledgeable then that...
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I wasn't asking about changing bits, I love that she'll go in the mullen mouth, never had one that liked it. The one issue I've had with her that I haven't with others is that she absolutely NEEDS contact, if you have loose reins at all she tends to panic.

I've seen horses like that on craigslist too...I always think either that horse is a saint, or I hope whoever takes them is more knowledgeable then that...
I thought you were the original poster .when driving you should have contact you should not be driving the horse without contacts at anytime .
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I thought you were the original poster .when driving you should have contact you should not be driving the horse without contacts at anytime .
I know, I usually keep contact all the time. I loosen my reins to get her to stretch, relax her muscles because sometimes she gets a little tense, and she naturally super collects herself, very upright headset, so we're in the process of teaching her to stretch and it helps her relax. Or when I stop, to untack, as soon as you let that real contact go she jumps forward, gets antsy, obviously seeking that contact...Just a different experience for me because the gelding I had come back from the trainer was so hard mouthed that he cared less about contact just wanted something to brace on.
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High headset does not mean collected and usually the opposite and they are hollowed out. You have to wait for the rains and keep them on the bit or they don't understand what you're watching anyway
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