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    10-01-2012, 08:44 AM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Shoebox    
I look forward to the other pictures! While you put it rather bluntly, I agree- there are many different names for each piece, and I think we can all figure out what a belly band is. I hope to get a driving harness some day that will fit Clem and for a reasonable price. (Hah... finding tack smaller than draft and bigger than horse is next to impossible, it seems.) Really, I wish I knew someone with a harness so I could try it out and know if it's something I'd like to pursue :p Aah, well. We can't all have what we want.
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What is really funny is that if goodhrse had worded her first post with a minimal amount of diplomacy, I probably would have agreed that for the purpose of this thread, I should use the names on the diagram posted.
However I would never have agreed that there is only one correct name for every piece of harness, there are wrong names, but no one correct name. And as for making up names well that just PMO.

As for your harness, that size is often called, X-Large horse or Friesan size, they are out there. That is what my horse wears.

One of the lectures I went to last weekend was on buying a harness, and the lecturer said something appropriate to this thread.

"Use what you have, till you get what you want"
     
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    10-01-2012, 09:41 AM
  #22
Yearling
Hi Taffy, great info. Are you going to go thru the entire hitching up? I think it would make for a GREAT info thread that hopefully the moderators would keep in front so everyone can use it. Again, the pics are great and thank you so much for taking the time to put it all together. I know it is quite time consuming!

As for the millions of terms, I agree with goodhrs when they said 'who wants to be ignorant so learn the names of the parts correctly (or something like that) - they are right, who wants to be ignorant?

That is why I personally try to make sure I know just about ALL of the names and nicknames for all of the parts and harness, and I try to adjust my 'vocabulary' to match who I'm talking to because there are so many variations depending on where you come from.

I've been driving for over 20 years and I may not know it all, but I do know that if you limit yourself to only one part of the language, you will miss out on the entire meaning of the conversation (and quite possibly some opportunities to learn something new or make new friends).

So if it's okay with you Taffy, and everyone else, I say go ahead and use the terms interchangeably and let's make it a lesson. I personally have friends who come and visit once a year from overseas and the first time we stood over a horse and hitched him up, we almost had heart attacks laughing so hard at some of the names they called things versus what we call things - and I'm from Texas, so we have our own language on top of that! It was a great time and great memories were made.
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    10-02-2012, 09:31 PM
  #23
Foal
Taffy, if I was selling you a harness, you can call the parts ANYTHING you want to! Customer is ALWAYS right!! If you call it a bellyband, cinch or girth, that part is EXACTLY what you called it, and I will also call it a bellyband, cinch or girth.

Obviously you have not "been called out" yet in a public setting for misnaming the equipment. Not fun, for you or others in the group, but DOES happen by some of the "perfectionists" among the Driving Clinicians. They are trying to make a point that we need to "speak a common language" by calling Driving things the same name in communication. You want to call it a bellyband, then you may get a conversation about being specific in your terms. May not happen, but I have seen it happen more than once by some big name Clinicians in Driving.

If you want to display your ignorance in front of everyone, works for me! You are pretty thin skinned, to get angry when someone points out a problem with your teaching methods. Also thin skin could be part of the issue when you got called for lifting the original posting from Camptown Harness. Did YOU ASK PERMISSION to take that article and post it here? Even with the author's name on it in this Internet age, that is commonly called stealing, taken without specific permission from the author to use their written information.

Don't worry about me trying to "help" you folks again. Won't happen because you don't wish to learn. So I won't point out the obvious mistakes, beyond saying Taffy might want to Spell Check your posts to remove the unintentional humor that keeps happening. Have fun Driving, try not to hurt yourselves.
     
    10-02-2012, 09:46 PM
  #24
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
What is really funny is that if goodhrse had worded her first post with a minimal amount of diplomacy, I probably would have agreed that for the purpose of this thread, I should use the names on the diagram posted.
However I would never have agreed that there is only one correct name for every piece of harness, there are wrong names, but no one correct name. And as for making up names well that just PMO.

As for your harness, that size is often called, X-Large horse or Friesan size, they are out there. That is what my horse wears.

One of the lectures I went to last weekend was on buying a harness, and the lecturer said something appropriate to this thread.

"Use what you have, till you get what you want"

Aah! I wish you lived near me so I could try it on Clem!

Keep going like you're doing. Goodhors is making a stink out of a trivial thing. I am 100% new and novice to driving - I am stalking this thread to learn more about it before I jump into it - and I am having no problems figuring out what you're talking about. While she has a point - As you said, for the purpose of the thread using the names on the diagram might be best - many people have said the way you are doing it is fine. Saying bellyband and posting a picture of what you're talking about is pretty obvious. :) I look forward to more updates with pictures. Use whatever names you like. AS it was also pointed out, we can tun it into a lesson, and learn some of the common names in addition to the proper names!
     
    10-02-2012, 10:36 PM
  #25
Green Broke
Hopefully I can Start the Braking System tomorrow, I have been trying to collect photos. I did not get too many at the ADS meeting, I hope to get lots of photos of several different equines at the National drive, Different sizes than my boys, Hopefully lots of minis and ponies.
Then we can discuss the breeching system and all the different names of all the different parts of the harness. I cannot wait!!
     
    10-03-2012, 09:32 AM
  #26
Yearling
OMG I'm cracking up - sorry, but now name calling? LOL!

Sorry, getting it together again - ok here is something I thought I'd share since we are currently on the subjects of the saddle, and saddles have turrets. Aaron Martin Harness has a great set of supplies, replacement parts and hardware if anyone is interested. I've shopped there to replace the turrets on top of my saddle because most of the harness I buy use nickel, and I prefer stainless steel (brass is not my favorite). So I just wanted to throw that out there to vouch for their business if anyone is ever looking for something particular. I've also bought biothane from them as well.

They are in Canada, but ship very cheap and fast anywhere in the US. I got my stuff within a week and the hardware was heavy, but the shipping was very reasonable despite the weight coming all the way from up yonder (LOL!). The catalog is worth having if you ask them to send you one.

Now a little off topic, I thought Smucker's had gone out of business - are they back again? Did someone buy them out and start anew?
     
    10-03-2012, 10:25 AM
  #27
Green Broke
Moses Smucker retired and sold the buisness to his son, Danial. They no longer have a storefront like they had in PA, they only do phone and internet orders. There are about 6 retail outlets that sell Smuckers harness throughout USA and Canada, and it still is made the same quality as before it seems.

Clippityclop Thanks for the tip on Aaron Martin Harness Ltd, nice store.
Here is the like for anyone.
Aaron Martin Harness | Harness & Supplies for Horse, Dairy & Pet


Something great I learned at the ADS meeting.
After cleaning and polishing your harness, put it in "Spacebags" wraped in a cotton sheet and then vaccuum out the air and your harness brass will stay polished, even brass, for up to two weeks.

I also heard from someone not affiliated with horses that "Spacebags" will kill mold if your harness is moldy. I have to check that out. I have a moldy harness that I just can't get the smell out of.
     
    10-03-2012, 11:00 AM
  #28
Yearling
Taffy, I can see how that would work... If there isn't any air in the bag, the mold can't very well grow! I would guess it will kill the mold, and then once you give it another good clean to get all the dead mold off it would be mold free! A good polish with some leather conditioner and it might be good as new. Can't hurt to try it!
     
    10-03-2012, 11:14 AM
  #29
Green Broke
I Hope so, I was very lax to keep the harness where I did I thought it was safe hanging, but with this horrid heat this summer it was not, and now I am paying the price.

I am going to try the spacebags for mold for 2 weeks and see what happens.

I have heard of people storing their harness (long Term) in spacebags, but I think that the leather needs to breath, so I don't think I would use them for long term storage.
     
    10-04-2012, 10:58 AM
  #30
Foal
Goodhors. I'm sorry, but you are out of line in attacking Taffy for what YOU think is "made up" or "incorrect terms". I googled "names of harness parts" and as you can see by these three different sites they all mention BELLY BAND.

Glossary

Harness Parts

Stitch 'n Hitch - Single Buggy Harness
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