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        11-08-2009, 05:19 AM
      #11
    Weanling
    You make things very complicated lillie,but like you said about wrapping the shafts it wont be a prob un yoking if you tie the tugs to the shafts with baling twine traces as well,then if things do messs up or if they don't you can cut them out when you finsh
         
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        11-08-2009, 05:29 AM
      #12
    Foal
    Well jimmy, it probably does come over as complicated, but its not complicated when I do it, its just that I am trying to think of every angle that a first time driver would need to consider, and trying to cover all possible problem areas. And it might take longer but its all fun to do ! As you know, with many things in life, if it's over too quickly you end up feeling let down or cheated ! ( sorry couldnt resist- just a little joke!) but I do want to ask you, because it might be useful to me, when you say you tie the shafts to the tugs, do you mean you tie them to the outside of the tugs, which I can see would work, or are you putting the shafts through the tugs at that stage?
         
        11-08-2009, 05:58 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    Loop the twine through the tugs and tie the twine to the shaft I always do it when breaking learned it ater a horse upskittled cart and himself in the road and I had 2 cut an exspensive set of harness to get him out[it proved you do pay 4 your education] did you geet the pm I sent you about the square accommodation if it suits you woul be begging it
         
        11-08-2009, 06:13 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    That feeling cheated [must be a woman thing]lol
         
        11-08-2009, 06:50 AM
      #15
    Weanling
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    just one other thing savvy wrap some rags around the end of the shafts then if you turn too tight the shaft wnt dig in and hurt him
    Hey Jimmy I have seen you post that a couple times. It seems odd to me. If a horse is properly harnessed the shaft should never dig into the shoulder. That usually happens when people have the shaft past the point of the shoulder (where is should NEVER be)

    Also a horse that is taught how to pivot before ever driving normally has no trouble turning a cart. I have seen though horses rushed into a cart have trouble.

    One of the driving trainers here made a fake cart from PVC pipe. Wish I had a picture of it. It was so easy to make but does give them the feelign of having something behind them etc.


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        11-08-2009, 07:33 AM
      #16
    Foal
    Hey jimmy, yes that is a good idea - that's what I thought you meant. And that accident you mention is just the sort of thing I am talking about- the more you can do before the cart goes behind the cart the better, hence my wheel or pallet, I can just worry about me and the horse getting it right without worrying about expensive equipment, or heads being split open. That's why I do all of the other stuff first. Glad you saw my joke, and yes I looked at and replied to you in private message, but I didnt think it sent to you, so will do it again. And weefoal, hi, that plastic tubing idea is I expect very similar to what I do, I use the wheel for a bit of weight, just to get them used to the idea, about 10 times , and then do the pallet thing to add the shafts, but I think its better to have a bit of weight, if it's too lightweight its a bit too bouncy and unstable, but your trainers probably had a bit of added wieght on the "cart" bit of the fake cart? I think we think on similar lines!
         
        11-08-2009, 08:06 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Well wee foal I,ve seen it happen so many time generally with new drivers,and if a cart is bought and its not bang right for that horse theres not many can afford to swop and change and most riders learnig to drive do try and turn them too tight
         

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