You say " when did I say I told anyone they know nothing" you then continue with "i did" yes, you did!! Jimmy did say that he tied his to a cart all day, but he didnt mention putting stones in it and going back to move them around periodically. I admit that I can't find that post which I am convinced that you wrote, but I will apologise if I did get muddled up in the flurry of posts last week. But the fact remains that I find you very agressive, so that is mutual. And I remind you that I exited the discussion on your dynamo jin thread last week, because I thought it was all going downhill into a bitchfest. The only reason it is back on this thread now is that YOU asked why jimmy gets a more pleasant response than you. Why don't we start an entire new thread for this issue; we could call it the "disagree and lets be childish " thread. That way we are not taking over other peoples threads, and people don't have to be bored reading it if they don't want to. And you can whine about my injustice at questioning your methods, as much as you want--- i'm up for it.