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You know, it's so nice to be able to watch this again and again and again and see what COULD have been done, but even though the whole thing took 5 minutes, that seems like no time at all in a situation like that sometimes.

The announcer was quite calm and gave clear instructions. She saw the issue quickly and gave some warning. That was good. Perhaps in driving class, or any class for that matter, there should be (maybe there is already) a code word for runaway horse. You know, like CODE YELLOW!

However, who in their right mind would try to catch or STEP IN FRONT of a paniced horse??? DUH??? And where did the owner/driver go? This is the guy that should know best how the horse will react to certain things.

I think the best thing would be to clear the arena as soon as possible, which it appears they did do, even though it looks like it took forever. what other options do you have? Runaway horses happen at shows all the time. The big difference here is the cart and the additional danger it presents.

I don't show, I don't drive, so maybe my ideas aren't good, but that's all I've got.
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That looked like a great showing of poor horsemanship. The guys that were 'trying' to catch the horse were just holding out their hands and hoping the horse would dodge!

I've lunged at a runaway horse before and caught the halter, and I weigh all of 100 pounds. You don't ever get in FRONT of them... but someone could have grabbed that horse or tried to corner it earlier.

Watch it without sound and it looks a heck of a lot more ridiculous with people just going, 'OMG OMG OMG--YOU catch it, /I/ don't want to get hurt!'

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You know, it's so nice to be able to watch this again and again and again and see what COULD have been done, but even though the whole thing took 5 minutes, that seems like no time at all in a situation like that sometimes.

The announcer was quite calm and gave clear instructions. She saw the issue quickly and gave some warning. That was good. Perhaps in driving class, or any class for that matter, there should be (maybe there is already) a code word for runaway horse. You know, like CODE YELLOW!

However, who in their right mind would try to catch or STEP IN FRONT of a paniced horse??? DUH??? And where did the owner/driver go? This is the guy that should know best how the horse will react to certain things.

I think the best thing would be to clear the arena as soon as possible, which it appears they did do, even though it looks like it took forever. what other options do you have? Runaway horses happen at shows all the time. The big difference here is the cart and the additional danger it presents.

I don't show, I don't drive, so maybe my ideas aren't good, but that's all I've got.
Wow, that video was horrible. The guy whose horse spooked first should have brought his horse to the inside, rather than trying to stay on the rail. If he had done that, the whole thing probably never would have happened. Everybody else could have exited the arena while he got his horse under control.

And yea, you are supposed to step in front of a runaway horse. Of course, you don't try to do it when he's 10 feet away, but if all the people in the ring would have made a line to act as a wall to keep the horse running straight, one of them could have stood at the end and stopped it. I've seen it done before on a busy street with a runaway carriage horse. Trust me, as long as you give them time to stop, they will not run you over. Just stand in front of them, wave your arms, and tell them to "ho" or "whoa" or whatever.

edit: Watch the guy at 3:35. He stood in front of the horse, and it didn't run him over. It turned and ran to the left. Imagine how easy it would have been to catch the horse if it couldn't have gone anywhere.
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Were they trying to untangle that horse at the end or did he have to be put down?

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No, he was fine. I think he went on to win National Champion if I remember correctly.
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Wow, that video was horrible. The guy whose horse spooked first should have brought his horse to the inside, rather than trying to stay on the rail. If he had done that, the whole thing probably never would have happened. Everybody else could have exited the arena while he got his horse under control.

And yea, you are supposed to step in front of a runaway horse. Of course, you don't try to do it when he's 10 feet away, but if all the people in the ring would have made a line to act as a wall to keep the horse running straight, one of them could have stood at the end and stopped it. I've seen it done before on a busy street with a runaway carriage horse. Trust me, as long as you give them time to stop, they will not run you over. Just stand in front of them, wave your arms, and tell them to "ho" or "whoa" or whatever.

edit: Watch the guy at 3:35. He stood in front of the horse, and it didn't run him over. It turned and ran to the left. Imagine how easy it would have been to catch the horse if it couldn't have gone anywhere.
I can understand making a line to block a horse, but just stepping in front is asking for a trip to the hospital, IMO. Also, don't forget the difference between a paniced horse and one that's just running. I've caught several runaways, but none of them were paniced.

I wonder if that driver would have been even capable of turning the horse to the inside without flipping. Looks like he bailed at his first opportunity anyway.
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I know nothing of Driving Horses, but...

If I was there, after seeing the second horse get SLAMMED into by the first horse, I would have had everyone unhook the carts from the horses.. it just seems to make sense to me o.o; I at least would have had all drivers get out of the carts if nothing else.

It seemed they had enough spotters in the little area in the center of the ring (even after a bunch of them ran out to "try" to stop the horses) to systematically hold horses so the drivers could get out and unhook the buggies, then roll the buggies to the center of the ring close that little area. I would then work at getting the horses out of the ring.

I think the announcer did the best out of everyone. She stayed really calm, and even had the presence of mind to tell everyone to keep quiet. I want her to Announce my next show ;)

That video is the epitome of a train wreck. It just keeps getting worse and you can't look away.

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I can understand making a line to block a horse, but just stepping in front is asking for a trip to the hospital, IMO. Also, don't forget the difference between a paniced horse and one that's just running. I've caught several runaways, but none of them were paniced.

I wonder if that driver would have been even capable of turning the horse to the inside without flipping. Looks like he bailed at his first opportunity anyway.
Watch at 1:30. That's exactly what I'm talking about not doing. If that guy had put his arms up, waved them, and yelled, the horse would have at the very least not run him over.

The guys at 3:30 had the right idea, but they all got scared and moved. The last guy did the best, at least he didn't dive out of the way. But the horse still turned to avoid running into him.
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Sorry, but no. These horses had something chasing after them (carts and men in white coats!). There is no way in hell that horse would see, recognize, and stop for someone 'waving their arms'. There is a difference between a scared horse, and one running in blind panic. I've seen them run over barrels, into trees, etc. A person waving their arms? Doesn't stand a chance.

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