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    02-22-2011, 01:05 AM
Wow, thanks Adenfire for all the useful info!
(I wasn't aware there was still leather anywhere on them, so that is nice to know)
It did not look like the (mini) pleasure harness comes with breaching? I just see it on the team and dorsal harness. I guess if you want it they would offer it huh? But it was not even mentioned in the description...

I don't mean to be a bother, but do you have any pics of yours on a horse?
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    02-22-2011, 01:36 AM
Mine didn't originally come with breeching but they do carry it, it was hard to find so I just emailed them and they gave me the info on sizes and pricing since I had to order it. But I thought there was an option in one of the drop down menus when you order it. If not pop them an email and ask and they should let you know.
These are before 4-H changed the rules and made breeching required, hence why I got it.

I don't have any of him with the breeching on, I ended up getting Betathane breeching because it was cheaper :) but since it goes under their tail and rides pretty even with the shafts it doesn't stick out that much.
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    02-22-2011, 01:51 AM
Love your pics!
Especially the 2nd one, your chocolate outfit really compliments your horse nicely.
(Okay, I know that is not about the harness, just had to say it....)
The harness does look very nice, and delicate too if you know what I mean?
Does it have a true saddle, or is it one with just the leather over a pad?

I guess I am going to have to start saving my pennies and get me one to try!
If I end up liking the biothane, that is what I will get down the line when I start our big
Canadian boy, Duke. He has such great temperament, I think he will be a great driving horse as well.
I'd never try it with my QH's though! LOL!

Thanks again!

Sorry if I am being a pest!
    03-09-2011, 04:03 PM
I love my biothane harness. Have had it 2 1/2 years and haven't noticed any stretching at all, and have alot of miles on it. Agree it's very easy to clean and take care of. Have a harness that is a combination of "shiny" and matte. Driving lines are matte, drive with bare hands, and have not had a problem with slipperiness, not even when they got wet. Find biothane a very strong and dependable material for a driving harness. Been on drives where leather has gave/broken when horse acted up, but have not had that as of yet with any biothane harness I've seen, not that it couldn't happen.
    03-09-2011, 06:26 PM
Thanks for your input sharick!
Makes it much easier to try some thing new when you can get a lot of peoples opinions on it first.
    03-13-2011, 09:43 PM
Sorry I haven't been on in awhile :) But Thank you for the Compliment on my outfit :) I love love love my chocolate show clothes.. hehe that sounds funny. But it's the one color that matches each of my horses. I have a chocolate blazer that I just change the polo shirt underneath per horse, so I have a "different" outfit for each one!

Along with what Sharick said, my reins are the matte/bettathane ones. Love them too :)
    03-13-2011, 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by Adenfire    
Sorry I haven't been on in awhile :) But Thank you for the Compliment on my outfit :) I love love love my chocolate show clothes.. hehe that sounds funny. But it's the one color that matches each of my horses. I have a chocolate blazer that I just change the polo shirt underneath per horse, so I have a "different" outfit for each one!

Along with what Sharick said, my reins are the matte/bettathane ones. Love them too :)

Oh, that's okay!
Hey, not only does the blazer work for all, it also saves you some money.
Show clothes can be spendy!
Thanks again.
    03-23-2011, 03:34 PM
For any harness you get, make sure there is a tree in the saddle. This keeps harness and possible shaft weight up off the animal spine. Just like a riding saddle, there should not be weight on his spine doing his work.

Most folks love the synthetics, so much easier to care for. We do carriage driving, where the matte finish seems to be very popular. However the minis, horse folks who do ring classes with fine harness (type shown above with mini) often like the shiny biothane finish better. More flash and sparkle! I have not heard of stretching problems, but synthetics do wear differently than leather. Some parts are made to be replaced regularly, like billets with lots of pressure on them. Girth billets, rein billets, hold back straps if you use a breeching. If a hole gets ripped, get things fixed promptly for YOUR safety.

Check for good quality hardware in your buckles, get large rein rings on the saddle so a twist won't snag running thru on turns. Buckle tongues should all be steel, NEVER brass tongues on a buckle. Brass is pretty, but very soft, will bend or break under stress that doesn't bother steel.

I have to say I NEVER want my harness parts to fail. Those kind of parts will break when you MOST need them to hold and be strong. Failure of parts can CAUSE wrecks. If an accident happens, I WANT harness to hold, NO FAILURE, to cause a worse problem as horse "thinks" give of breaking part means he can escape. 99% of time breaking parts make it much worse in a wreck.

Properly measure your animal so you can give harness person correct dimensions, for proper sizing and fitting new harness to YOUR pony. Send back parts that do not fit correctly. I find that ordering harness from a maker is usually the most cost effective, comfortable to animal. This is getting animal the best fit of harness, with little difference in cost between a box harness or custom sized. There are LOTS of harness makers who would love your business.
    03-23-2011, 09:31 PM
Thanks for all the good info goodhors.

Yes I make sure my saddles are "real" saddles, not just a piece of padded leather.
I am surprised how many you see that are not. Just cheaper or some thing?
All the hardware on my leather harness' are steel. Got lucky there I guess, never thought about the brass being softer, but that is true.

Don't show much at all, just drive for pleasure, so I think I will be looking at the matte finish definitely.
Really looking forward to getting a harness that I don't have to worry over so much. I do a lot of training, and we also get some pretty unexpected sudden rain storms. Hate having to cut the fun short for fear of ruining a harness...

Thanks again.

    03-24-2011, 12:15 PM
Well, good leather should be able to take plain water soaking from a rainstorm with no problems while you get home. Old-time horse drivers couldn't run for cover whenever it rained! However once you get home, you would need to hang the harness to dry, usually a day or two, then do a deep conditioning to it. I would NOT advise oiling as a conditioner. I am really happy with Harness Honey as a conditoner, has been very good on my stuff, harness and saddles.

We have gotten our leather harnesses wet quite a few times over the years, showing in rain, driving thru water crossings, comes right back just fine. But as you say, the synthetics are just easier, no worries. We have those as well now, for our daily use harnesses. The matte finish will look VERY leather-like even up close. Be sure to get brown reins, even if the whole harness is black. Traditional reins are always brown. And you want buckle in rein ends for the bit, no snaps on your harness anyplace. This makes you check the wear on those rein ends as a safety feature, which doesn't happen with snaps. The strap or snap end just breaks and you have a problem!!

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