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post #21 of 30 Old 03-24-2011, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
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Goodhors thanks again.
I have only driven my miniatures.
I am planning on starting my husband's Canadian this summer though.
He has such a great easy temperament I think he will make a wonderful driving horse as well.
So I can use all the tips and info I can get.

For some reason, probably strictly size related, I am much more concerned about all things involved with driving Duke.
Bigger horse, bigger wreck I guess?
I don't foresee any problems with him, but I also know even with the most thoroughly trained horse things can happen....
So keeping a close eye on the safety of my equipment is a definite priority.

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post #22 of 30 Old 03-25-2011, 03:43 PM
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I finally FINALLY got my harness in the mail! Took a long time, but worth the wait. I can't vouch for it's durability yet, but this beta harness is beautiful! Soon as the rain stops this weekend I'll try it on her and post pics.

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post #23 of 30 Old 03-25-2011, 04:08 PM Thread Starter
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Hey that's great, can't wait for the pics!

Anxious to see what you think of it, if it's the one you posted a link to earlier, that's the one I am thinking of getting for Duke....
Will love to hear what you think of it.

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post #24 of 30 Old 04-14-2011, 09:11 PM
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I honestly prefer everything leather... just seems so much prettier, more elegant, whatever you want to call it. Plus I actually (*hiding behind a barrel*) love to clean leather! Much prefer cleaning leather and spending the time polishing it up to a quick swipe with a damp cloth. To get onto the environmental side, it's natural, too. :) Therefore I can make myself feel like I'm doing *something* if not all that much.
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post #25 of 30 Old 04-14-2011, 10:44 PM
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environmental? no, sorry. raising livestock is the worst thing for the environment.

I want to see pictures when you get going back in the saddle.
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post #26 of 30 Old 04-15-2011, 09:15 AM
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Leather is a great product, very traditional to use with horses.

HOWEVER, having cleaned a LOT of leather, including saddlery and harness, the "charm" of leather cleaning is just gone for me! Could be that the standards of cleaning for Driving competition, literal "white glove" inspections of your whole outfit, took the fun away. Judges DO check both sides of leather straps, inside of buckles while on the equines! Adding in that we only drive horses in Multiples, 2 or 4 at a time, and we (mostly me) end up cleaning, conditioning, blacking, metal polishing, almost a herd of cattle leather!! I am not going to compete with my stuff in less than perfectly prepared condition, so the above takes at LEAST 2 eight hour days of just harness work. And this is with harness in fairly clean shape. Then you get to reassemble everything and bag it for transport. I am just "over" the fun of harness cleaning leather. But cleaning a saddle and one bridle for show is a very simple thing now!!

I love the synthetics for making my life MUCH easier. They still need cleaning, metal polishing now and again, but it is just less work. Stands up to the heavy sweat much better, don't have to worry about salt or drying out with use and time. Lighter weight to haul around.

Nothing FEELS as good as nice leather, fits the horses better. Just not willing to put in the time needed to keep leather nice, in the volumes of harness we use.
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post #27 of 30 Old 04-22-2011, 08:30 AM
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I don't know if you guys are talking about the same stuff, but when I was working in the racing stables I would have just about died if I was cleaning the unknown miles of harness in leather. I think most of the gear was the pvc covered webbing type material, though the good racing harnesses were US imports from Walsh Harness & Saddlery

Contrary to appearances, most racing harnesses do have trees. Just sayin'

Not sure if you have them where you are, but Zilco makes synthetic harness.
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post #28 of 30 Old 04-22-2011, 08:43 AM
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The one concern I have heard about Biothane harnesses is that in an emergency it is hard to cut. Alot of the drivers I talk to say that they carry a pocket knife with them just in case, and that they have found they can never cut through biothane harnesses quickly enough.
I do like the idea of them though and have always wanted one for a road horse
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post #29 of 30 Old 04-23-2011, 10:24 PM
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Having been in a couple "situations" and the LAST thing you want done is to cut harness!! Horse feels a little give, tries even HARDER to get loose, jump up.

The cases I have been involved in, have only taken a moment or two to UNBUCKLE the straps, while still having a hold on equine so he can't get loose after standing up. There have been some nasty LOOKING situations, but by pausing a moment for evaluation, you can almost always manage to avoid cutting anything to get the mess straightened up. Two were wrecks with a 4-in-hand, horses down, cutting them loose from the other horses would have been a disaster. One had the downed horse stand when asked, they kept on going to finish the course!! No tangles, harness fell into place when horse stood, but no problems needing any parts cut loose!! Lots of bystanders screaming, but not the driver and crew, not the horses.

Singles down, again just some unbuckling got them out of the mess fast, didn't NEED to cut anything.

Look at your harness, there are key spots that can be unbuckled, get a horse out of the shafts fast. There are quick-release shaft loops that will open with a pull of the strap, quick release snaps, that can be purchased to put on your harness.

Better training, better drivers, reduce the incidence of accidents. Most well trained Driving horses will give you a couple moments to help them before going ballistic. Driving animals have had LOTS done with them during training steps, long time teaching the basics, so seem to be a bit more accepting of weirdness, so you can help them.

Sharp knives flying about could cut you, horse under the harness, can be quite dangerous!! Know what you will be cutting as you lean on the blade to slice things. Contrarily, if you DO want to carry the knife for safety, make it a SHARP one. Dull blades are no help at all. I have not found the serrated blades to be very good for cutting heavy things, plus they don't resharpen well. I only carry a straight edged blade, and you could shave with it easily. Anything less sharp in a blade is a time waster.

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post #30 of 30 Old 07-20-2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Adenfire View Post
Mine didn't originally come with breeching but they do carry it, it was hard to find so I just emailed them and they gave me the info on sizes and pricing since I had to order it. But I thought there was an option in one of the drop down menus when you order it. If not pop them an email and ask and they should let you know.
These are before 4-H changed the rules and made breeching required, hence why i got it.
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I don't have any of him with the breeching on, I ended up getting Betathane breeching because it was cheaper :) but since it goes under their tail and rides pretty even with the shafts it doesn't stick out that much.
I was just flipping through some driving posts and saw your lovely pictures. I did want to give some constructive critism, if you look at the picture with the brown outfit and see all the slack in the traces, look at how tight your reins are. That little pony is pulling all of that weight with his mouth. It's something that is easy to over look but if you keep an eye out for being in draft your pony will thank you
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