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post #11 of 29 Old 06-03-2013, 01:12 PM
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Not the best performance I've seen, but here is a bit of an example ^_^

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OMG! I think my instructor would faint if I tried that! I like how relaxed the horses look but it would drive me nuts not being able to see over the horse.
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Yep, I was taught that the reins should be snug enough to feel the horse, but no real contact should be used (and if you ever need to "slap" the horse, you use the tail end of your lines, never the part that's between your hand and their mouth).

This is pretty typical for how our teams are driven


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When I showed at the Pinto World Show, the obstacle class was stock horses and pleasure type combined, and in the warm up, Tootsie walked, and they trotted, and we LAPPED them.

Not my type, but then I don't understand how anyone can ride a western pleasure horse around an arena enough to get it trained to show.....apologies in advance to any WP people.

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My mare is in training right now, and I've got her in a full-cheek snaffle, same bit we use for everything. I typically keep hoses in a snaffle until I see a need for something else.

Endiku - I didn't know there was any world of show driving that allowed slapping the haunches with the lines! GASP is right! And there's no breeching on those harnesses, I guess the cart weighs so little they don't need it, but golly gosh I've never seen it in a show ring. And correct me if I'm wrong, but is that a head check on that horse the man is driving? His nose is practically dragging the ground as it is, what could that head check offer?
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I have a question to add. My horse has always been ridden in a half-cheek Eggbutt snaffle - A driving bit. (She was going to be taught to drive. I've since gotten her a French Link instead.)

What makes this bit more suitable for driving than any other bit? Than, say, a full cheek snaffle?
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Many lightweight showers don't use breeching with that type of cart. No reason to, I guess. I rarely ever see breeching on the miniatures that are being driven when I attend different classes.

Note though, that I don't condone that type of showing and I don't show at all personally, I pleasure drive. I just gave that as an example of someone driving without contact. Actually though, in that video I never saw the lady slap her stallion (the chestnut being driven) with the reins. When she asked him to trot she did a bit of a jiggle with the rein and off he went. All of those drivers also had whips with them, they just weren't using them. Not sure why.

I drive with minimal contact when I'm just around the farm with our more experienced horses...my mare is still fairly new to driving (has about 65 short drives and one parade on her, started March 2012) and young so I'd never try driving without contact with her, but with our 14 year old Shetland who practically drives himself, I have no problem with giving him a loose rein and just relying on my voice to control him. He's been driving for over 9 years and is used for therapy as well, so he's about as spook proof as they get.

Shoebox- I'm not completely sure with some bits, but I know that a lot of people prefer half cheeks because you have to use a lot more rein direction with driving (in some cases anyways) than with riding, and halfcheeks won't slide through the horse's mouth. They also give another form of pressure, on the outside of the jaw, to help guide younger horses into turns.
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I have a question to add. My horse has always been ridden in a half-cheek Eggbutt snaffle - A driving bit. (She was going to be taught to drive. I've since gotten her a French Link instead.)

What makes this bit more suitable for driving than any other bit? Than, say, a full cheek snaffle?
The top part of a full cheek snaffle can get hung on the harness if the horse swings its head at a fly or something, so, as Endiku said, the half cheek is used to prevent lateral bit slide....

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My mare is in training right now, and I've got her in a full-cheek snaffle, same bit we use for everything. I typically keep hoses in a snaffle until I see a need for something else.

Endiku - I didn't know there was any world of show driving that allowed slapping the haunches with the lines! GASP is right! And there's no breeching on those harnesses, I guess the cart weighs so little they don't need it, but golly gosh I've never seen it in a show ring. And correct me if I'm wrong, but is that a head check on that horse the man is driving? His nose is practically dragging the ground as it is, what could that head check offer?
The fine harness does not have breeching, to "show off" the horse better. Most of those have a thimble on the end of the shaft to keep the shaft from sliding forward (which is why we adjust the breeching as we do- to keep the carriage from hitting the horse).

Again, apologies to anyone who does stock horse pleasure driving, but the overcheck hanging down 6 inches cracks me up, as do the carts tilted so far up that the drivers could fall over backwards.

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Yes, I prefer to see OVER my horse's butt, not right at it...
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