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  • Should shaft on pony cart touch sides of pony
  • Do tug loops go through a ring on the shafts

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    05-14-2012, 01:08 PM
  #1
Foal
Putting new rings on shaves

I have a pony cart that doesn't fit my little guy- the rings are too far back on the shaves (is that spelling right?). The cart is unbalanced and always wants to tip backwards. My trainer said if I can get a welder to put rings farther forward on the shaves, the cart will be better balanced. Has anyone ever dealt with this kind of thing before? How can I explain to a welder what I need? How much can I expect to pay? Any input will be appreciated.
     
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    05-14-2012, 01:54 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Please post a picture. Alot of people mistake how to hook up a cart and do not understand what each thing is for. The rings have nothing to do with balance. They are for the breeching.
     
    05-14-2012, 02:10 PM
  #3
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ilovemyarab    
I have a pony cart that doesn't fit my little guy- the rings are too far back on the shaves (is that spelling right?). The cart is unbalanced and always wants to tip backwards. My trainer said if I can get a welder to put rings farther forward on the shaves, the cart will be better balanced. Has anyone ever dealt with this kind of thing before? How can I explain to a welder what I need? How much can I expect to pay? Any input will be appreciated.
does you trainer mean tug stops so your pony is further down the shafts.
And in what way are you out of balance if you could provide a pictures so we can see were the problem lies and hope fully solve it for you.
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    05-16-2012, 04:27 PM
  #4
Foal
I guess I explained poorly. The metal poles that stick out from the cart. The place on these that the harness attaches to. My trainer called them the rings. Maybe they are called something else. But the cart always wants to tip backward. The cart would be better balanced if the rings on the shaves were farther forward. All I want to know is if there's anything I need to know like "only use Iron for the rings" or "make sure the welder does this". Hope that helps.
     
    05-16-2012, 04:37 PM
  #5
Green Broke
I think the rings you are referring to are not for the shaft that's why a picture would help the only rings on my cart are for the rear breaching so I am thinking you were taking the cart too far forward
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    05-16-2012, 05:30 PM
  #6
Green Broke
I am posting a side shot so you can see the ring on my old cart. The tug loops just hold the shafts and the only rings on the cart are where the rear breeching attaches so if you have a similar setup there shouldn't be any rings for the shafts. The shafts should be at the point of shoulder.
With out a photo we can only guess what you are referring to though.
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    05-17-2012, 02:14 AM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ilovemyarab    
I have a pony cart that doesn't fit my little guy- the rings are too far back on the shaves (is that spelling right?). The cart is unbalanced and always wants to tip backwards. My trainer said if I can get a welder to put rings farther forward on the shaves, the cart will be better balanced. Has anyone ever dealt with this kind of thing before? How can I explain to a welder what I need? How much can I expect to pay? Any input will be appreciated.
cherumbque picture will help us shed some light on your problem.
I think you might be refering to the back band and the tugs which probley
Are more to the cart end than the tip of the shafts.
aproxamatley 1 1 1/2 foot back from the shaft tips.
Put your pony to and check and see were the cart and the tugs come so that will give you an idear to solve the problem.
So that could be the cause why the cart tips and is ot of balance.
If its the tugs have a small steel bar about 2-3 inches long it would stop them slideing back thay would act as tug stops also check
Were your breeching d (ring) is as well.
So you can get the correct position were it should be fitted.
     
    05-17-2012, 10:26 PM
  #8
Foal
Thanks for all the input so far, everyone. Hopefully this picture will help. These are what I was calling rings. My trainer said if they are farther forward the cart won't want to tip backward.
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    05-17-2012, 10:45 PM
  #9
Green Broke
I think you and your trainer are confused. These are the hold backs for the rear breeching and should not be moved forward. Not sure what size cart this is but they look very forward if it were a horse cart and probablt ok if it is a pony cart. The tugs on the harness go in front of the rings and do not touch the rings
     
    05-18-2012, 01:09 AM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ilovemyarab    
Thanks for all the input so far, everyone. Hopefully this picture will help. These are what I was calling rings. My trainer said if they are farther forward the cart won't want to tip backward.
right I see your problem were the shaft bends about 1 foot from the tips.
The front
Youll need a tug stop ill tell you how ok if you look at the shaft as if your pony was in it so the cart is levle you need to drill a hole not right through but on one side of each shaft for a 3/16 1/4 pin to be inserted.
When 3/16 1/4 diameter pin is in weld them up so the pin is tite.
The pin length sticking out of the shaft needs to b 2- 2 1/2 inchs long.
Then check if you need an extra breeching d (ring) leave the oridginal one there just add another one each side of the shaft.
And your problem will be truley solved.
     

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