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    02-14-2014, 09:46 AM
Rigging up, need help please!

I finally got my cart yesterday and harness but really do not have anyone to show me the right way to hook it up. I know she is too close to the back so I'm thinking I got the side suspension goofy. She was only in it for the pictures. Do anyone have any close up pictures of this kind of harness that could help me better see where to hook them up and how. Really want to get practicing short trip but want to have her set up right.

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    02-14-2014, 10:20 AM
Just like my setup but it looks like your tugs are to short.
    02-14-2014, 10:39 AM
It's a bit fuzzy and hard to see, but it looks to me like your shafts are low. Granted, it's an EE cart with low/standard wheels so those shafts are going to tip no matter what.

I'm trying to look at your picture and see if the tugs are actually being pulled towards the back end of your horse (it looks like there's two straps that make a sort of a triangle on your horse's barrel but it's hard to tell due to picture quality) What kind of girth rigging have you got? Overgirth or wrap strap?

I'd also try moving your hip strap forward. What brand of harness do you have?
    02-14-2014, 10:56 AM
Green Broke
That's a pretty, snowy picture. Subbing, as I want to hear what all the smart harnessy people have to say.
    02-14-2014, 12:12 PM
I will hitch her up again today but not move and take a bunch of pictures for you guys, I may very well have it really really really wrong but that's what I need to know. Really wish I had some one I knew locally to show me what to do with this :( I tried finding some videos of it but youtube keeps crashing our computer -.-
    02-14-2014, 12:20 PM
I got a cob size: Tough 1 Basic Nylon Driving Harness - Statelinetack.com

I was told it would probably be the best bet for a starter for her since she is only 14.1 at most.
    02-14-2014, 12:27 PM
Green Broke
Fox Ridge ranch The one thing I can say is you have a great horse!

You have adjustment issues with your cart.
I can help you to a point hooking up your horse and adjusting you harness. You are in the middle of midwest driving USA. It would be best to join a club or find a mentor to help you with the finer points of harnessing and driving.

Every adjustment on a harness affects other adjustments so it is a bit of a complicated process.

SO THAT SAID: This will probably be several posts with you adjusting then taking photos. Posting, then adjusting again. So if you are up to this so am I.

My main question is why do you not have a bridle? Are you planning on driving in a halter? I would not recommend this, as this is highly dangerous, and it is not IF but WHEN a serious problem will occur.

In the American Driving Society rulebook, is says ..Removal of the bridle while the horse is still hooked to the vehicle, the driver will be eliminated from any event and in some instances be asked to leave the property. I am paraphrasing, but you get the idea.

So back to your harness;

#1 Put on a bridle! Blinkers or not, Put on a bridle. At all times while harnessed and while harnessing have a bridle on, I can't stress this enough.

#2 You horse is too far back in the shafts. The shafts are supposed to end at the point of the shoulder. Reason, shafts lto far forward will hit the horse in the face/head or neck when the horse turns, causing discomfort and counterbending, a no=no. And his rear end is too close to the cart.

Properly adjusted shafts at the point of the shoulder.


This photo the shafts are to far forward.


I put the cart up to the horse, put the shafts to to the shoulder the attach the traces. If the traces are to short figure out how to make them longer or buy longer ones. There is no negotiation here. Shafts can be a bit short but not a bit long.

This will bring your horse's rear end further away from the cart. Where he is now, there is no way his hind legs wont hit the cart, causing all but the oldest and kindest soles to kick. And you can't blame a horse for kicking if every time he takes a step his hocks hit the cart..

There are several more adjustments to make then maybe you can implement those adjustments, take a photo and then we will see what other adjustments need to be made.
I will try and post again this afternoon, I am having company this evening and need to clean house.
I just wanted you to know I will give you a hand.
    02-14-2014, 12:34 PM
I just read your other post and it was very helpful: Need a Close-Up Pic Please!

The bridle I couldn't figure out and was really bothering her mostly the blinkers and the straps that crisscross her face don't actually crisscross but went straight over her eyes. I'll bring the bridle in really quick and get some pictures of what I'm talking about.
    02-14-2014, 12:37 PM
OMG I'm so dumb, I brought it in and just noticed that I can criss cross them by unhooking them. I didn't see the buckles yesterday cause I only had 10 mins to mess around with it.....I'm scary...
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    02-14-2014, 01:00 PM
Green Broke
I jumped the gun by talking about hitching and shafts first thing. You need to get your harness fitted properly first. Yours looks preytty good but I would shorten you backStrap, (what goes between the saddle and the crupper (what goes under the tail )). Try and get the hip strap, (strap that goes up and over the hip and holds up the breeching) as close to the top of the hip as possible. To do this you need to shorten the back strap, then probably lengthen the crupper straps. There is some wiggle room here but get it as close as possible. There might also be different slots that you can have the hip strap go through the back strap.

Clear as mud, right?



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