Rigging up, need help please! - The Horse Forum
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 926
• Horses: 3
Rigging up, need help please!

I finally got my cart yesterday and harness but really do not have anyone to show me the right way to hook it up. I know she is too close to the back so I'm thinking I got the side suspension goofy. She was only in it for the pictures. Do anyone have any close up pictures of this kind of harness that could help me better see where to hook them up and how. Really want to get practicing short trip but want to have her set up right.

FoxRidgeRanch is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 10:20 AM
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Missouri
Posts: 41
• Horses: 0
Just like my setup but it looks like your tugs are to short.
Cincinnati is offline  
post #3 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 10:39 AM
Join Date: May 2011
Location: California
Posts: 529
• Horses: 2
It's a bit fuzzy and hard to see, but it looks to me like your shafts are low. Granted, it's an EE cart with low/standard wheels so those shafts are going to tip no matter what.

I'm trying to look at your picture and see if the tugs are actually being pulled towards the back end of your horse (it looks like there's two straps that make a sort of a triangle on your horse's barrel but it's hard to tell due to picture quality) What kind of girth rigging have you got? Overgirth or wrap strap?

I'd also try moving your hip strap forward. What brand of harness do you have?
CaliforniaDreaming is offline  
post #4 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 10:56 AM
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 7,463
• Horses: 1
That's a pretty, snowy picture. Subbing, as I want to hear what all the smart harnessy people have to say.

The sensitivity of the internet baffles me.
Zexious is offline  
post #5 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 926
• Horses: 3
I will hitch her up again today but not move and take a bunch of pictures for you guys, I may very well have it really really really wrong but thats what I need to know. Really wish I had some one I knew locally to show me what to do with this :( I tried finding some videos of it but youtube keeps crashing our computer -.-
FoxRidgeRanch is offline  
post #6 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 926
• Horses: 3
I got a cob size: Tough 1 Basic Nylon Driving Harness - Statelinetack.com

I was told it would probably be the best bet for a starter for her since she is only 14.1 at most.
FoxRidgeRanch is offline  
post #7 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 12:27 PM
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6,345
• Horses: 0
Fox Ridge ranch The one thing I can say is you have a great horse!

You have adjustment issues with your cart.
I can help you to a point hooking up your horse and adjusting you harness. You are in the middle of midwest driving USA. It would be best to join a club or find a mentor to help you with the finer points of harnessing and driving.

Every adjustment on a harness affects other adjustments so it is a bit of a complicated process.

SO THAT SAID: This will probably be several posts with you adjusting then taking photos. posting, then adjusting again. So if you are up to this so am I.

My main question is why do you not have a bridle? Are you planning on driving in a halter? I would not recommend this, as this is highly dangerous, and it is not IF but WHEN a serious problem will occur.

In the American Driving Society rulebook, is says ..Removal of the bridle while the horse is still hooked to the vehicle, the driver will be eliminated from any event and in some instances be asked to leave the property. I am paraphrasing, but you get the idea.

So back to your harness;

#1 Put on a bridle! Blinkers or not, Put on a bridle. At all times while harnessed and while harnessing have a bridle on, I can't stress this enough.

#2 You horse is too far back in the shafts. The shafts are supposed to end at the point of the shoulder. Reason, shafts lto far forward will hit the horse in the face/head or neck when the horse turns, causing discomfort and counterbending, a no=no. And his rear end is too close to the cart.

Properly adjusted shafts at the point of the shoulder.


This photo the shafts are to far forward.


I put the cart up to the horse, put the shafts to to the shoulder the attach the traces. If the traces are to short figure out how to make them longer or buy longer ones. There is no negotiation here. Shafts can be a bit short but not a bit long.

This will bring your horse's rear end further away from the cart. Where he is now, there is no way his hind legs wont hit the cart, causing all but the oldest and kindest soles to kick. and you can't blame a horse for kicking if every time he takes a step his hocks hit the cart..

There are several more adjustments to make then maybe you can implement those adjustments, take a photo and then we will see what other adjustments need to be made.
I will try and post again this afternoon, I am having company this evening and need to clean house.
I just wanted you to know I will give you a hand.

Last edited by Clayton Taffy; 02-14-2014 at 12:32 PM.
Clayton Taffy is offline  
post #8 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 926
• Horses: 3
I just read your other post and it was very helpful: Need a Close-Up Pic Please!

The bridle I couldn't figure out and was really bothering her mostly the blinkers and the straps that crisscross her face don't actually crisscross but went straight over her eyes. I'll bring the bridle in really quick and get some pictures of what I'm talking about.
FoxRidgeRanch is offline  
post #9 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 12:37 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 926
• Horses: 3
OMG I'm so dumb, I brought it in and just noticed that I can criss cross them by unhooking them. I didn't see the buckles yesterday cause i only had 10 mins to mess around with it.....I'm scary...
Taffy Clayton likes this.
FoxRidgeRanch is offline  
post #10 of 56 Old 02-14-2014, 01:00 PM
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6,345
• Horses: 0
I jumped the gun by talking about hitching and shafts first thing. You need to get your harness fitted properly first. Yours looks preytty good but I would shorten you backStrap, (what goes between the saddle and the crupper (what goes under the tail )). Try and get the hip strap, (strap that goes up and over the hip and holds up the breeching) as close to the top of the hip as possible. To do this you need to shorten the back strap, then probably lengthen the crupper straps. There is some wiggle room here but get it as close as possible. There might also be different slots that you can have the hip strap go through the back strap.

Clear as mud, right?


Clayton Taffy is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Double rigging? ThunderingHooves Horse Tack and Equipment 1 09-11-2013 06:30 PM
Western saddle rigging joseeandjade11 Horse Tack and Equipment 14 05-06-2013 04:23 PM
Rigging question mvinotime Horse Tack and Equipment 2 03-24-2013 10:33 AM
Rigging: Would a different rigging help this saddle? Shananigan Horse Tack and Equipment 20 03-08-2012 12:32 PM
Crossfire Rigging snoggle Horse Tack and Equipment 2 01-07-2010 09:24 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome