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    01-11-2013, 03:45 PM
  #1
Foal
Shaft length

Hi,

I am considering purchasing a used easy entry cart on craigslist for my standardbred mare. My girl used to race and now has some back and stifle issues that currently prevent her from carrying a rider at more than a walk. I talked to my vet and wanted to try pleasure driving with her since she lunges and ground drives at the trot just fine without a rider, so I am looking for a cheaper cart to test this out with her. If it works, I will likely upgrade, but I want to be sure I am getting an appropriate sized cart.

Anyhow, my mare is 15.1 H and wears a 72" size blanket. The seller lists it as cob size with 72" shafts, but to my novice eyes it appears they are not measuring all the way back to the singletree. Is that how cart shafts should be measured? I was using this website as a guideline: American Driving Society

Here are a couple pictures from the ad:

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Thank you in advance!
     
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    01-11-2013, 09:15 PM
  #2
Green Broke
That is small for a full size horse keep in mind you're going to sit lower and closer to their feet . If it were a tall cart it might work but usually on a full size horse those chef should be about 88 inches for that style of cart
     
    01-11-2013, 09:16 PM
  #3
Green Broke
I just caught a glimpse of the bottom picture that is not an easy entry
     
    01-11-2013, 09:41 PM
  #4
Trained
*giggles at title*

I was wondering if an experiement was being done regarding....ehrm...size...of their horses...

...I have been sick and sleep deprived ALL week...
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    01-11-2013, 11:08 PM
  #5
Green Broke
That cart doesn't have a single tree. It has stationary hooks hooked on the shafts about the 76" mark, That is where you are to hook the traces.
I believe this cart is too small. I don't know what they are asking for it, but I think they do not resell well.
I would try and get one that fits and hopefully you will not need to resell.

If you do get this cart, a cart without a single tree is hard on the horses shoulders, with a singletree the breast collar moves with the horses shoulders, without a singletree the harness rubs across the chest and can cause sore shoulders. That stated you would be best if you made a single tree for that cart. But of course it does not change the size problem. Those kind of carts are really for ponies only.

Glad you are repurposing your boy, good luck to you.
     
    01-13-2013, 07:32 AM
  #6
Foal
I have a cob size easy entry cart for my haflinger. He is a little over 13 hands. The cart fits him very well (see my photos). This will not fit a a 15 hand horse. You will probably be tilted backwards in the seat and the horse will be uncomfortable. A new easy entry cart is about $500. You should consider getting a new one if that is what you want.
     
    01-13-2013, 09:11 AM
  #7
Green Broke
That looks nice Lilly!
     
    01-13-2013, 11:31 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
That cart doesn't have a single tree. It has stationary hooks hooked on the shafts about the 76" mark, That is where you are to hook the traces.
I believe this cart is too small. I don't know what they are asking for it, but I think they do not resell well.
I would try and get one that fits and hopefully you will not need to resell.

If you do get this cart, a cart without a single tree is hard on the horses shoulders, with a singletree the breast collar moves with the horses shoulders, without a singletree the harness rubs across the chest and can cause sore shoulders. That stated you would be best if you made a single tree for that cart. But of course it does not change the size problem. Those kind of carts are really for ponies only.

Glad you are repurposing your boy, good luck to you.
Good eye about the single tree and I am wondering if that it even hooks at the 76" mark. I think that may be something else and it is just missing the tree. Another thing I question is the 72" blanket. My 14H that would fit but my 15.1H horses use a 76 or 78 blanket and they have short backs.
     
    01-13-2013, 11:58 AM
  #9
Green Broke
[QUOTE=churumbeque;1842219]Good eye about the single tree and I am wondering if that it even hooks at the 76" mark. I think that may be something else and it is just missing the tree. QUOTE]


No, that is where the traces hook, I have seen this type of cart before.
If a single tree was to be added, one could drill a hole in the center of the crossbar and try to fabricate a singletree to attach there.
     
    01-13-2013, 12:02 PM
  #10
Green Broke
[quote=Taffy Clayton;1842262]
Quote:
Originally Posted by churumbeque    
Good eye about the single tree and I am wondering if that it even hooks at the 76" mark. I think that may be something else and it is just missing the tree. QUOTE]


No, that is where the traces hook, I have seen this type of cart before.
If a single tree was to be added, one could drill a hole in the center of the crossbar and try to fabricate a singletree to attach there.
I had one where the single tree was bolted between the cross bars so that is what I had in mind. Anyway I think the OP is missing.
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