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post #91 of 99 Old 08-24-2012, 11:02 PM
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They gave some reason, I will have to look it up again. I did not think that the reason they stated was good enough to have it set in stone. It seemed like a flimsy reason to me!

Here it is in the old days collers were put on first with the collar, hames, traces and false martingale put on as a singlr unit. Then the saddle. And the loop of the false martingale had the girth run through it then the girth was buckled. If the saddle was put on first then the collar, the saddle girth would have to be unbuckled for the martingale. So it was to save time and effort. And now has become traditionally the way it is done.
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That is interesting - I also do the saddle first - again I think it is because it might be related to having only one pair of hands to get the horse ready with...

For some reason (and I don't know why) I don't like to put the shafts on the ground. I don't know if it was the way I was taught, or some OCD thing (LOL)...

So I don't even get the cart out until he is harnessed and it can go straight into the tugs....

I also don't put my reins on until last. Does anyone else do that? That's another thing I have great respect for - my driving lines. That is the very last thing I attach before I take the halter off of his neck.
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That is interesting - I also do the saddle first - again I think it is because it might be related to having only one pair of hands to get the horse ready with...

For some reason (and I don't know why) I don't like to put the shafts on the ground. I don't know if it was the way I was taught, or some OCD thing (LOL)...

So I don't even get the cart out until he is harnessed and it can go straight into the tugs....

I also don't put my reins on until last. Does anyone else do that? That's another thing I have great respect for - my driving lines. That is the very last thing I attach before I take the halter off of his neck.
I put the collar on, then the harness, then hames, etc....like you I put my driving lines on last, I don't like them dragging the ground or being stepped on. Once my harness has been put on, a once over, then we hitch up.
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post #94 of 99 Old 08-25-2012, 03:38 PM
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I just started driving the mini donkies at my barn after their 2 year break (long story). They each have their own harnesses that are adjusted to them and "directions" about their commands, trace and bridle adjustment from a previous owner. They have been behind the cart about 4 times now for short amounts of time. They got right back into it like they didn't miss a day! They also seem to really enjoy it and take their jobs seriously. They DON'T bray for each other when in tack and their attitudes change when their harnesses go on. Although I've done TONS of ground driving, I've never actually sat in a cart and driven. I know where all the stuff goes but there is two things I'm not sure of.

1) the traces... Should they be taught? Because the setting it says to have them seems loose to me. The pulling should be coming from the traces and not the surcingle and shafts, right?
2) when making sharp turns the shafts bump them in the neck. Although I've been using it on the setting it was on my thought is that they need to be lowered and set back a little bit.

Also, I would love to get a book on driving, from harness adjustment, to parts of the tack, to how to break them to drive. I actually find driving quite relaxing! :)

Any other tips and advice is welcome!!

Many, many thanks!!

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the best thing I can recomend is to have tug stops welded to the cart to stop it slideing foward I pointed it out to a young lady as to the problems to a cart of the same designe get one each side and problems solved.
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After some breeching adjustments they stopped sliding. I'd be hesitant to do anything permanent because both of them use the same cart.
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Taffy, thanks for taking the time to post all of those pics - that had to be time consuming!
Those were excellent and detailed pictures.
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Thank you for the explanation Taffy! They are great. My cart was delivered yesterday, and to my knowledge, it does not have footmans loops on it??
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That is interesting - I also do the saddle first - again I think it is because it might be related to having only one pair of hands to get the horse ready with...

For some reason (and I don't know why) I don't like to put the shafts on the ground. I don't know if it was the way I was taught, or some OCD thing (LOL)...

So I don't even get the cart out until he is harnessed and it can go straight into the tugs....

I also don't put my reins on until last. Does anyone else do that? That's another thing I have great respect for - my driving lines. That is the very last thing I attach before I take the halter off of his neck.
for quickness my working set is all togeather so I have no adjusting to do when its cleaned its put back as it was.
I put the driveing saddle (pad) on first that includes the back strap briching crupper back band and the reins.
I then do up the girth slightley as I have to add the martingale.
The crupper is opened and refastend around the tail.
So the pad and back strap and breeching are all in place the reins are looped through the back strap and heald in place with the back band keeper.
I then have the full collar don't for get to bend it slightley on your knee to ease it gentley.
I undo trickys head collar and offer the full collar and ask for his head he offers it and the full collar is put on upside down then rotated to the right way up and slid down the neck.
The hames and martingale and tugs are put on the collar in one and the top hame strap fastend.
The girth is undone and the false martingale fitted and the girth done up tite and his legs offerd to me to pull them up as to free traped hair and skin and helps make him comftable.
I can drive him in a blinkerd bridle or an open one then the reins are fed through the hame terrets and fastend to the bit.
The cart is out side the yard I walk him out and ask him to stand and I put him to I feed the shafts through the tugs and thay rest at the tug stops.
I then walk to and undo the traces and put them to the pigtails then the breaching straps to incorparate the traces through the breeching ds on the shafts.
I use a troting sulkey with motorbike tires and drive up the tracks and on the road I ask him to stand and I climb aboard and ask him to walk on and warm him up in walk for 10 minuits.
My reins are laced on the last section were thay buckle up togeather.
And after exerciseing the harness is wiped clean and left to dry and put back in the harness bag.
The harness in question was brought in the reading horse sales and it was total junk.
A harness maker aproched us as thay set up in a rideing school down the road and thay went to the london harness horse parade and sent letters asking if any one needed there harnesses repaired.
I had it rebuilt I used 90% of the buckles the blinkers head pece of the bridle the throat lash and the outer part of the driveing saddle and the crupper.
The collar is a split full adjustable collar from canada by burrows collars its the best full collar I have ever owned as it fitted all our ponys.
All the ornaments on the face drop and on the martingale are brass horses.
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Thank you for the explanation Taffy! They are great. My cart was delivered yesterday, and to my knowledge, it does not have footmans loops on it??
What kind of shafts does it have? Wood or metal?
Footmans loops are under $5 a pair, I will measure where they are on my cart tomorrow and find out where you can order a pair on line.

Yea!!! On the purchase of your new cart!!!
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