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    02-03-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ButtInTheDirt    
I have no practical advice to give you, but ASKDFJ;WLEAFSIGHIWJEFI, those donks are all I have ever dreamed of! I have somewhat of an obsession with mini donks and driving, but alas, no such donk has come into my life. ;) Good luck, I'm looking forward to more pictures of those cuties.
I was never really into them. They were in my barns petting zoo area for almost 2 years before I really took interest in them. Now I can get enough of them! They are so smart and strong, its incredible to me. The have HUGE work ethics and meet me at the gate of their pen to come out. I say come on donks and they follow me on a loose lead. They are wonderful little bugs!
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    02-03-2013, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by clairegillies    
in my younger days I worked as a driving groom and my boss's main team were tandem. I never drove them though I drove single and pairs.
The lead horse she drove had never been trained to carriage drive... we used to comment that he must just of thought he got long reined a lot.. lol.
So the wheeler has to do the pulling, and the leader has to just prance about looking pretty. That's what we did anyway.
My apologies for having no practical advice.

Yeah, I know the lead isn't for pulling, more for show, but they will get exercise in either way. Plus it can cut the time they spend with them in half. I love spending time with them but I have two jobs, full time nursing school and I'm training 1 !/2 horses (the other one is good most of the token so my time is limited. They were puffing 15 min into doing a working walk around the property! Lol
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    02-03-2013, 02:22 PM
Michaelvanessa, love the pictures of your ponies, they look awesome characters. George and Jaunty were harnessed up correctly as all the rules would require, we had patent tack for the 'dressage' and cones sections, and a webbing and strong leather set for the cross-country and every day use. I was very good at harnessing up and understood everything about fit and different set ups as I did it everyday... however this was over 25 years ago now and I would not be sure of everything I did. My boss was a very good horsewoman, all her horses had great manners and drove beautifuly, as you say about the voice they all went very well to spoken instruction. Most of them went very well under saddle too, I had a fabulous and very busy time working there as we went to shows regularly with the tandem team and a spare horse, Brewster.. I would be the hooligan and ride the spare all round the place bareback in a headcollar.
I don't think in all my horse days I could ever have surpassed her driving skills. Awesome lady.

    02-03-2013, 05:17 PM
tandem driveing

Hiya it looks like you have found some articles that you can work on, try not to alter your harness to much you could probley ask your harness maker to make some parts that can be put on as a leader or a wheeler.
So take your time I could see thay used the roger rings instead of the rosetties ill have to get the harness out and take some pictures so it will give you a better idear on the way foward.
Take your time little by little buy your harness so you have not got a big layout that is what I did I had mine made a bit each month and im proud of the harness makers that made the harness and I was blessed with a beautiful pair of ponys.
Ill keep you in the loop when ill post them so you can check them out.
Have fun with your donkeys and all the best ok.
    02-03-2013, 05:34 PM
tandem driveing

To clare thankyou for you insite to your life with you horses at work it sounds like your just a good horse woman as your boss was and I have admarations for your storys like your self I would not change any thing for the world id do it all again.
I use to ride my frends sec c welsh pony bare back with a head collar and lead rope in london and in a local park were he lived I use to canter and full gallop as well I miss the freedom like that it was fun but now I don't bounce like I use to any more lol and both the pony and my frend have passed on many thanks and thank you for your kind comments of tricky and tammy the sad thing is tricky lost tammy 1 1/2 years ago now and tammys owner vanessa she passed 14 years ago so I lost her.
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    02-03-2013, 07:57 PM
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They only thing I would add to the harness are D rings on the wheelers breast collar. We don't have harness makers here on Long Island. Lol. I also have to look closer at their harnesses to see if I can work with that I got.

Anything else as far as equipment I'm missing?

-D rings on the breast collar
-Both donks have rings by the crown piece
-trace extenders, I was thinking of getting a small section of chain with heavy duty snaps for that
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    02-03-2013, 08:52 PM
I recently learned of a hammer. The fellow was driving a hammer of Friesiens. That is 5 horses. The leaders are three abreast except the middle one is a little more forward of the others, then two wheel horses. These horses were pulling a large British carriage.
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    02-14-2013, 04:22 PM
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Here are some photos from Michaelvanessa, He was a great sport taking detailed photos for us interested in tandem driving.


^^^^ DSCF1704 here is the wheeler in theory coupled to the leader, as you can see the wheeler's harness is the same as any wheeler with tugs on the driving saddle breeching and also a false martingale from the girth to the collar the only other differences are the rein territs and the bridle as described with the auxiliary throat lash and rein terrets and breeching.


^^^^^ DSCF1701 you can see the split rein terret with the roller the leaders reins pass through the top and the wheeler passes through the bottom.


^^^^^ DSCF1699 you can see the hame tug buckle with the cock eye fitted to the wheeler's buckle and you can see the wheeler's trace continue on.


^^^^^ DSCF1696 you can see the leaders reins from a front view passing through the rein rosettes


^^^^^ DSCF1698 here is a side view of the wheeler's bridle and the reins passing through the rein rosettes.


^^^^^ DSCF1693b you can see how long the leaders reins are as displayed here.


^^^^ DSCF1695 here is the leader waiting quietly ready to be put to the wheeler.
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    02-14-2013, 04:42 PM
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Here are some more:


^^^^ DSCF1690 you can see no breeching but a trace carrier and the wheeler's reins folded neatly behind the saddle with the aid of the back band keeper holding them in place.


^^^^^ DSCF1691 you can see the cock eye on the trace this connects the leader to the wheeler.


^^^^ DSCF1683 you can see the leaders trace passing through the loop on the saddle and the trace carrier from the girth helps support the pad driving saddle trace carrier and prevents the trace riding up and damaging the saddle, you can see the leaders reins rolled up on the back strap.


^^^^^ DSCF1688 you can see the trace carrier loop on the girth and the trace carrier and also the false martingale.


^^^^^ DSCF1682 for this demonstration we are using the wheeler's bridle as the leader.


^^^ DSCF1681 you can see the gullet strap clearly connecting the auxiliary throat lash to the nose band.


^^^^ DSCF1679 front view of wheeler's bridle you can see the wheeler rosettes for the leaders reins.


^^^ DSCF1680 side view of the wheeler's bridle you can see the auxiliary throat lash this prevents the wheeler's bridle being pulled off the auxiliary throat lash has a gullet strap which connects to the nose band.
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    02-14-2013, 04:54 PM
These are great photographs, thankyou for sharing them and all the explanations too. A couple of memory cells fired up saying they remembered this.. but they are back into retirement now.. lol.


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