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post #1 of 43 Old 05-13-2012, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Want to talk bits for a minute

So, I have used this type of bit driving my horse for several years.



Just a basic medium port Kimberwick. We took a few years off driving, but now that we are driving again, he is not happy with the bit.

About two years ago I switched him, under saddle, to a medium port with a copper roller - which he LOVES.

But now, when I hitch him up, I can feel him workign the bit looking for the roller. He is not doing anything bad, he just wants his copper roller back.

Do they make Kimberwicks with a copper roller that are not broken mouth pieces? This is the closest I have been able to find. My horse hasn't had a broken mouth piece in his mouth in 12 years.



Or if I really want to keep my medium port - which I do, I can get copper, but the mouth piece is broken and no roller.



Any suggestions? He is really unhappy without the roller, but he has never gone well in any sort of snaffle. - I need to add that I am open to switching to different shanks, like a pelham, etc, but I don't need tons of leverage.

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post #2 of 43 Old 05-13-2012, 09:45 PM
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What about driving him in the bit you ride in? Would that work. As long as you are not showing I would drive in whatever bit your horse likes best.
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Um - that's a good question... that I have no answer to. I don't show and have no intention of ever showing - we do everythign we do just for fun.

My concern is that his riding bit has fixed shafts so there is no independant action. As Western bits go, it has very short and bent shanks, 4" I think. I always thought that I needed the indepent action for driving - now that you know I ride Western does that change your question?

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Yes, defiantly too much bit for driving, I thought you drove in the Kimblewick.

Some places to try:http://www.doversaddlery.com/

http://www.statelinetack.com/english-saddles-and-tack/bits/1035/

http://www.theharnessroom.com/

http://www.carriagedrivingessentials.com/index.html

http://www.camptownharness.com/
http://www.smuckersharness.com/

My boy is doing very well in a mullen mouth snaffle, what about that?

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I am being confusing! Yes, I drive in the kimberwick, and the sides are indepentant. I ride in a short shanked medium port curb bit.

I will check them out... but let me know if you find something good for driving with rollers, tongue relief, a solid mouth, and indepandant shafts... wow, I want the world!
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I found this:
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I would buy in a min. If it were 5 1/2"
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OK - I checked all your suggestions, and came up blank... sigh.
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I wish there was a bit library where you could take out a loaner bit, try it out, buy it if you like it, return it if you did not.
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So, I have used this type of bit driving my horse for several years.



Just a basic medium port Kimberwick. We took a few years off driving, but now that we are driving again, he is not happy with the bit.

About two years ago I switched him, under saddle, to a medium port with a copper roller - which he LOVES.

But now, when I hitch him up, I can feel him workign the bit looking for the roller. He is not doing anything bad, he just wants his copper roller back.

Do they make Kimberwicks with a copper roller that are not broken mouth pieces? This is the closest I have been able to find. My horse hasn't had a broken mouth piece in his mouth in 12 years.



Or if I really want to keep my medium port - which I do, I can get copper, but the mouth piece is broken and no roller.



Any suggestions? He is really unhappy without the roller, but he has never gone well in any sort of snaffle. - I need to add that I am open to switching to different shanks, like a pelham, etc, but I don't need tons of leverage.
I drive tricky in his valconate (rubber) slotted kimblewick that's what we calll them over here it would make him mouth up wet and except it more than a plain steel.
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I wish there was a bit library where you could take out a loaner bit, try it out, buy it if you like it, return it if you did not.
we use to have one over here but I have not heard of one for a long time.
If you ask may be there is some one with a large selection of bits at home may be thay can help.
Have you thought about opening a library your self.
That could be a good idear for you.
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