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post #1 of 21 Old 09-03-2012, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
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What size singletree for my Belgian

I just bought my first Belgian yesterday. A 12yr old Amish broke mare, she's been broke to ride/drive. I have some experience with Belgians as my Uncle has 12 and uses them in competitions all over the country. My question is I'm just starting to get into pulling. I'd like to be able to give her a job to do around the farm to keep her busy and I think being able to hitch her up to a sled, or logs to exercise her and keep her skills up would be great. I purchased a harness for her yesterday as well and I will have to get her a new collar. She's been using a 28"-30" adjustable collar. The Harness I bought has a 26" collar. Not a big deal I can get her another collar. What I am curious about is a Single tree. What Width should I get her, will a 32" be enough or should I go bigger/smaller. I've been trying to get ahold of my uncle but He hasn't called me back yet. Any advice would be great.

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post #2 of 21 Old 09-03-2012, 07:42 PM
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couldnt your uncle help you in this area since he competes with them. He is close to you and should be able to help you choose the right equipment. Good Luck oh and post pics please lol

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post #3 of 21 Old 09-03-2012, 07:51 PM
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You want the singletree wide enough that the traces aren't constantly rubbing the horse's legs.
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Like I said I've tried calling him, and can't get ahold of him. about a month ago I transferred out to michigan from maine. He lives in Maine, I'm in Michigan so just running over there to see what size she needs is out of the question. I can't really talk to the lady I bought her from about what size she needs as she was just going to use her for a Brood Mare embryo host for her Fresians. Being new to the area and not knowing anyone in the area who pulls kinda puts a damper on that. I have some experience in pulling as I know how to put the harness on, dropping the double tree down onto the hook of the stoneboat, very minimal driving experience. Its just one of those things that you just over look when your just around it every once in a while trying to help and learn. I've never asked him what size/how to measure. Just always assumed there was a set standard. Now that I own my own Belgian and want to get started into doing some Obstacle course style log twitching events I just want to make sure I'm doing it right. I found a sight with single trees and double trees and was going to order one as I can't find one for sale on craigslist. Does that Explain my situation, I just want to hurry up an get to pulling/working with my horse.
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so If I just measure her width at her widest point and maybe add an inch or two I should be ok is that what your saying saddlebag?
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post #6 of 21 Old 09-03-2012, 07:56 PM Thread Starter
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Here she is in all her glory, she's been on pasture all summer and has the paunch to prove it.
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Put the harness on her, run the traces out behind. Have a second person to help you. Get something like a stick or rod of metal, to run the traces back and attach to. One person holds the stick or rod with traces pulled back like she was hitched. Other person goes up beside horse, moves the traces wider so they are not touching her sides. You then mark the stick or rod with both places traces are located and not rubbing her sides. That will give you a measurement for the width.

I am betting her sides are wider than her hindquarters, from viewing the photo. You want the singletree wide enough to prevent any rubbing her sides as horse goes ahead.

Where in Michigan are you located? With the Indiana Amish so close, most folks buy a lot from them for Draft horses, pieces/parts needed for vehicles and pulling. There are also Michigan Amish groups up past the midway point in the middle of the State, that might be closer to get help from.

You may want a steel singletree for pulling logs, less chance to get broken or wet in our weather, plus handle the weight of logs.
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post #8 of 21 Old 09-03-2012, 11:08 PM
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A 30 inch collar on a mare is huge. My 18 hand mare uses a 25 inch and the smaller horses are in 23/24. I would remeasure her with 2 squares. If she does need a larger collar than she will also need larger hames. 1-2 inches longer than the collar. (bottom of the hame to the middle rachet.) I do have a 30 set for sale.

A 32 single tree will work fine. My singles are 30 and 31. Doubles drop down to 28.

Fi is a nice feminine looking mare. She is fluffy and will add/lose inches around her neck as she gets in shape so don't spend too much on equipment until she get's fitter.
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Lovely mare. Is it just me or does she look pregnant?
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post #10 of 21 Old 09-04-2012, 03:11 AM
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Get out a take measure after you hang the harness on her and measure her out yourself. A bunch of people on a forum will offer you a bunch of numbers, but none of them will be as correct as the actual measurement.

My mare is huge and took a thirty collar. It was not adjustable, but I always buy larger and add a pad for comfort. Be sure to store your collars hanging upside down so they don't loose their shape.
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