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  • Morgan endurance horse
  • Endurance riding with morgans

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    09-10-2012, 10:15 AM
  #11
Weanling
Thanks for all the info. I agree with everything that has been said. I may be looking at him today or Wed and my biggest concern is the "nice western pleasure jog" which you all also pointed out. If he can't move out he's a no-go, but we shall see. I will take some better conformation pictures when I look at him and try to post them for more opinions if he's something I think will work. I'm not in a rush so I want to make the best decision possible. Its extremely hard to find a good arab, arab-cross up here in Vermont!!! A lot of Morgans, which I love, but I worry about there "racey" heart rates and I would rather go with an Arab.
     
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    09-11-2012, 07:12 AM
  #12
Weanling
So the Quarab is a no-go, not because he was lazy, but because the people were lying right through their teeth. He looked way older than 12 and supposably has only been there 2 months off a meat truck. He was definitely a troubled soul. Anyways. What are your thoughts on the Morgan? I'm scheduled to go look at a really nice reg. 7 year old that has been a pleasure trail horse and has a big trot and loves to go. I have heard they are not always the best for endurance because of their racey heart rates and not being able to cool down as fast. Any opinions?
     
    09-11-2012, 09:33 AM
  #13
Green Broke
High heart rate and don't cool off as fast is it in a nutshell. No way I would buy a straight morgan. They are better than QH's though and a 50/50 Arabian/ Morgan would be one I would consider.
Arabian
Arabian/saddlebred
Arabian/TB
Arabian/ gaited (IE walker, RMH Paso,) If and only if it had a smooth comfortable gait and trot. I am against intentionally crossing gaited/non gaited as most end up with wierd back ends and bone jarring trots, but if you run across one on the hoof try it out as some end up with arabian endurance and Walker smoothness.

Stay away from heavy muscled power horses. And power horse crosses. What state are you located in I have a boring as all get out stare at gauges job and have 10 hours to surf later. I can help you look.

What is your training ability ? Obviously the higher your ability the cheaper a better horse will be, mine isnt very high I need a pretty dead broke finnished horse that I can teach to do what I want. Kinda frustratign at the moment. I have th emoney to buy a great horse, but don't have the room for another, plus I don't have the heart to ever sell the ones I have and realistically can only ride one. I need some nearby chicadees that wanna go ride.
     
    09-11-2012, 09:20 PM
  #14
Weanling
Joe- are there any articles or more information of how other breeds compare to the arab. I would love to read up on why Morgans aren't a good choice for endurance, other than the facts that we just pointed out. I live in Vermont, so Morgans are actually used more than Arabs in my area, I think its because of our climate, hills and really tough terrain, but don't quote me. I know when I rode in Utah there wasn't a Morgan to be found, but then again the terrain was completely different. Flat & Sandy & hotter than hell. Not sure if I should really be "picky" about the breed rather than the individual horse, and then again I'll only be doing short distance rides for a while.
     
    09-11-2012, 10:29 PM
  #15
Green Broke
Morgans originated in your area, as a versatile working horse. Probably why there are alot of them. Just like TN walkers are all over TN. Different regions have different horses.
Endurance has specific rules that favor arabian traits. There just isnt any way around that. Although Normally cooler in Vermont they recent vermont 100 if I recall correctly was hot. It is all about heat management, pulse rate and recovery. All things being equal an arabian will simply cool off quicker, and pulse down quicker than any other breed. A super conditioned walker, morgan, or other breed can do well but you are starting yourself off with a handicapp. Go to tevis and look at the horses that have finished in the last 10 years. Look at the ones pulled. I did the math once and 90 percent of the finnishers are at least 50% arabian. That remaining 10% consists of horses that may have arabian as well, breeds like mustang, or grade.
The crosses that show up most frequently as competitive seem to be the breeds I listed above. People are competitive, competition is a crucible. That which works rises to the top. That which doesnt is cast aside.
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    09-12-2012, 07:06 PM
  #16
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Posted on my facebook page by:
NH Dept. Of Agriculture, Markets & Food


Eqiune fans, on Sat. Sept 15 the Maynesboro Stud Memorial Ride will take place in Berlin, NH to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Maynesboro Stud founded by William R. Brown. Brown was the most important breeder of Arabian horses in the US from 1912-1933. There will be 50 and 25 mile endurance rides and a 12 mile pleasure ride. Pre-registration required for riders.There will also be other events and activities in Berlin to commemorate the anniversary. Spectators welcome! For more information about the rides contact wjnadeau@hotmail.com.


Might be just the place to do some networking and find your endurance arab.
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    09-12-2012, 07:14 PM
  #17
Weanling
I am actually crewing for my aunt at this ride this weekend! Great idea =)
     
    09-12-2012, 07:25 PM
  #18
Started
Bring lots of bug spray! The no-see-ums are vicious right now. I have one hand that is still a little swollen from being bitten yesterday afternoon. I had welts on me the size of half dollars.
     
    09-12-2012, 07:26 PM
  #19
Weanling
Oh gosh! Thanks for the heads up!
     
    09-13-2012, 07:42 AM
  #20
Started
I'm about an hour south of that. Unfortunately I have to work. Take lots of pics. That's something I think I'd like to try before I get too old and stiff. While I can't do a 100 mile ride a 25 mile is well within the realm of reality for me and my gangly walker.
Weather looks like it's going to be perfect. High of 68 and not a cloud.
Leaves should be changing pretty good up there. Will make for some great scenery.
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