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  • Dakar el jamaal endurance
  • Mishaah

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    07-06-2012, 10:19 PM
  #11
Weanling
Wow. Thank you guys so much, you have ALL been so helpful and kind with this subject. I was preparing myself to get bashed asking such a question =) I feel a lot better about moving on with our training.

I attached a conformation picture because you were all talking about bone size. He has plenty of that. 8" cannons bones and nice large joints. The body is there, now we just gotta get that mind in gear!

I also wanted to add that he is currently on grass hay, not alfalfa, and I mix my own grain rations to avoid excess sugar content. Since I switched from commercial feeds to cereal grains his energy level had decreased dramatically. Still spooky and wild from time to time, but much more manageable.

Another quick question. I board my him at college with me (we will be going back in Aug) and when I am there I don't have anyone to ride with out on the trail. I find that he is much more confident and less spooky out with another horse so I feed obligated to just do ringwork when I don't have another horse and rider there. Is there any way I can encorporate the trail when I have to ride alone? What I have been doing is riding indoors and taking him for walks out on the trail in hand to work on desensitising and being confident and forward. Seems to be working well, but I feel like I am avoiding it more than I am working on it. What would you suggest?
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    07-06-2012, 10:54 PM
  #12
Foal
Before I even thought of breaking my horse we would go for long walks inhand along trails. I moved her from a farm where she had been kept in a large herd on open plains to a farm where the herd was smaller and had plains, crop fields and woods and I found she was a lot more edgy when out of the stall. I started walking her along the trails inhand and down the road and everywhere else I could possibly go and now she is totally relaxed when out and about and realizes it is ok to be out just the 2 of us. (she was extremely herd bound) And on the ground it was easier to address any problems I came across.
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    07-06-2012, 11:22 PM
  #13
Trained
Walk him out in hand but fully tacked up and then ride him back over the exact same route. He'll still be silly but it should get less. Then on a weekend, leave on Saturday morning early and start out on the trail and just ride him until he gets over himself. It will take a few hours but he'll get there.
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    07-12-2012, 08:58 AM
  #14
Green Broke
When I got Bo I couldnt get on him till I had walked him a mile or so down the trail. Pretty much became our warm up routine. Something I now do with all green to me horses, just walk them out alone get a feel for them. Then I usually ask them nicely not to kill me when I get on. Has worked so far. If I decide to trail ride X route, by god we are doing that route either with me leading or riding. I am not to proud to get off and do a few drills to get the horse to focus on me. When I am doing these walks I don't just plod along. I walk, stop, back up, jog, run walk, send over obstacles, etc.
     
    07-12-2012, 09:08 AM
  #15
Trained
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When I got Bo I couldnt get on him till I had walked him a mile or so down the trail. Pretty much became our warm up routine. Something I now do with all green to me horses, just walk them out alone get a feel for them. Then I usually ask them nicely not to kill me when I get on. Has worked so far. If I decide to trail ride X route, by god we are doing that route either with me leading or riding. I am not to proud to get off and do a few drills to get the horse to focus on me. When I am doing these walks I don't just plod along. I walk, stop, back up, jog, run walk, send over obstacles, etc.

Sounds like you and I ride pretty much the same way Joe! One year I had a really green gelding and another horse ran me down and trashed my shoulder, on Christmas Eve. On New Year's day there's a huge trail ride I like to go on and needless to say, that year I had no business going, but I took a bunch of pain meds (don't try this at home folks, it's one of my stupider moments) and got helped up onto the horse. Once I got sat on him, I said, "Well, Marq, you're a kind little fellow and sweet, so please be my babysitter and try not to kill me today, OK?" You know, I swear that horse understood. I don't care what anyone did, that boy wouldn't go above a walk, stayed right in the middle of the trail and spooked at NOTHING. I had surgery on my shoulder and after rehab I would get on him and he could be quite lively, but that day he babysat me and carried me like I was fine china. We had several sessions out on trail where I'd dismount and do some ground work, walk and lead and cajole and curse. He turned into an awesome trail horse and belongs to a little girl today who practically refuses to go to school without him.
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    07-12-2012, 02:50 PM
  #16
Foal
Nice looking boy! Definitely has some halter breeding with Mishaah and Dakar El Jamal in there so bred to be a bit "hot". You said he was bred at 4 and you've been working with him for the last year or so... at 5 he still has some growing mentally to do. Keep in mind that Arabians mature later and I've seen plenty that didn't hit their "adult mind" until they were about 7 or 8.

Agree with everything that was said about slow trails and just building his confidence. The real test is going to come in whether he will rate or will be so hot that he blows himself out for longer competitive rides but only time will tell that. He's really pretty :)
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    07-14-2012, 01:13 AM
  #17
Weanling
Thank you. I agree that he is bred to be a bit "hot". Of course he proves this as well but his self control gets better every day. I guess the best thing to do is just stick with it and don't let the bloodlines and stereotypes get the best of me. I think he will come around once he matures in the next couple of years. Miles, miles, miles. The real test will be in his recoveries.
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