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        07-04-2013, 12:23 AM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
    Treeless saddles need to be fitted, just like a treed saddle. They also need correct padding to make sure there's spinal clearance. Not all horses go well with treeless. Weight dispersion is something you address with fit and padding.

    For what it's worth, I ride exclusively treeless. My horse has never bad any kind of back issues or girthyness since switching. Last time I tried a treed saddle on him (with the help of a fitter), well...it wasnt pretty! Let's just say that my horse said NO very loudly.

    Anyone looking for more info on treeless is welcome to PM me for info on a group that is exclusively treeless. They can help get you going.
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    How do you fit the treeless saddle to the horse? Also, what pad to use? I really prefer wool pads, can I use a good quality one with the treeless - or does it have to be a skito pad? I really doen't like the Aztec type designs I see in the pictures. (petty I understand, but still!)
         
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        07-06-2013, 05:42 PM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by AnitaAnne    
    How do you fit the treeless saddle to the horse? Also, what pad to use? I really prefer wool pads, can I use a good quality one with the treeless - or does it have to be a skito pad? I really doen't like the Aztec type designs I see in the pictures. (petty I understand, but still!)

    Most people I know who ride treeless use some sort of pad with the compression foam inserts.

    We have mostly skitos (which come in plain solid colors too, not just wild patterns), but also an equipedic and a toklat. One horse hates the equipedic (no idea why, the rest are fine with it). I find the toklat to be hotter than the skitos, but the skitos are the coolback variety, so have extra ventilation compared to a normal one. So we just use the toklat in winter.
         
        07-06-2013, 05:57 PM
      #13
    Trained
    There's several different brands of treeless pads and materials. Not sure what style you ride but 5star also has some wool treeless saddle pads.

    Someone with a sewing machine can make a cloth cover for the saddle pad.

    If you PM me I can send you some links from other groups on pad selection and fit. I don't think we're supposed to post info for other groups.
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        07-06-2013, 06:00 PM
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    Most people I know who ride treeless use some sort of pad with the compression foam inserts.

    We have mostly skitos (which come in plain solid colors too, not just wild patterns), but also an equipedic and a toklat. One horse hates the equipedic (no idea why, the rest are fine with it). I find the toklat to be hotter than the skitos, but the skitos are the coolback variety, so have extra ventilation compared to a normal one. So we just use the toklat in winter.
    Thanks! I guess I have to keep looking for the plainer ones. What size saddle do you use? I've seen the close-up picture you posted of the Torsion saddle, and it looks snug and well fitted to you. I've seen other pictures of treeless that looked huge, I really don't want to be swimming in my saddle. I'm 5'7 or so, but usually ride in a 15" western or 17" english.
         
        07-06-2013, 06:25 PM
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    Green Broke
    Not all treeless are created equal. I personally use a Rebecca (aka soft rider - made in Oregon) and had it recommended to me by someone who uses hers for endurance. Its stiffer than most other treeless and does a great job spreading out the weight. It comes with the needed pad which is specific to the type of back your horse has. I have 2 different pads to fit 2 different backs - both of which were specifically made for my saddle.

    The other thing I really like is its quite secure. You can mount from the ground with no slippage and I was hanging off the side of it once when a horse bolted sideways on me with no slippage.

    A lot of people don't like them because they don't look like a normal saddle but if you are not showing and just doing trail they are great. My husband just got his and loves it as well. He uses his on a draft cross and I've had mine on a few different horses including a haflinger and TB.
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        07-06-2013, 06:52 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    I have tried out a Bob Marshall (a friend let me borrow it) and to me it feels like riding bareback. You are a little more secure because the saddle has more grip than a slick, bareback horse, but the feel (to me) is the same. You can feel every muscle in the horse's back. If they tighten their back muscles, you can feel it. Every step, you are in tune with it.

    I personally would worry about slippage because I have had bad luck with flex-trees and bareback pads with stirrups, so I am leery of anything that isn't solid feeling on the horse. But this particular horse was cinched so tight that I don't think it could have turned if it wanted to!

    My assessment is that it is good for someone who enjoys the feeling of riding bareback. It was definitely comfortable. But I don't know the long term effect on the horse or anything like that.
         

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