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    06-28-2012, 09:01 AM
  #11
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Originally Posted by Jsutton    
I have worked with TWH my whole life and from my breed history lessons, their gait is what is they are meant to do on the trail not a canter. I am just learning about competitive endurance riding but I have owned and ridden a well conditioned TWH that can do 50 miles in a day without sweating, except for under the blanket, in southern August heat and humidity. Don't know how that would com-pair to Australia thought. I think that the breed is extremely well suited to the sport.
Thanks for the input, this is my first TWH, I have always had Arabs before. I am really enjoying legging him up. Doing alittle transition work with cantor on my property, but on the LSD days I am going to stay away from cantor for a few months, just going to concentrate on producing some good legs with running walk on the long LSD days. He seems to enjoy his days out in the bush. I have noticed that even when the day is quite hot, he is not sweating a lot. Heart rates on return around 42 at the moment. :)
     
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    06-28-2012, 09:08 AM
  #12
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In response to Joe4d: It's not. That was one exceptionally great horse (and big too). There are examples in every breed of horses with great stamina. An that was a fairly rude post btw.

To USdivers: That is what I would do for training. I call it lots of wet saddle blankets not LSD (new horse term! Yay!) but is is what walkers do best. And a head bob is a good thing! You can even put a jingle bell or two on the bridle to help the horse keep his own rhythm (if the judges wont dislike it) It makes such a pretty sound! And if you work with him you should be able to find his slow gait and fast gait. It is a matter of how collected the front end of the horse is. Each horse is different but a slow collected gait sounds like what you would want to use for when the vet checks his movements. It will be less crazy looking.
     
    06-28-2012, 09:26 AM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Jsutton    
In response to Joe4d: It's not. That was one exceptionally great horse (and big too). There are examples in every breed of horses with great stamina. An that was a fairly rude post btw.

To USdivers: That is what I would do for training. I call it lots of wet saddle blankets not LSD (new horse term! Yay!) but is is what walkers do best. And a head bob is a good thing! You can even put a jingle bell or two on the bridle to help the horse keep his own rhythm (if the judges wont dislike it) It makes such a pretty sound! And if you work with him you should be able to find his slow gait and fast gait. It is a matter of how collected the front end of the horse is. Each horse is different but a slow collected gait sounds like what you would want to use for when the vet checks his movements. It will be less crazy looking.
He seems to be working it out himself, of course I do some running rein stuff in the round yard before we go out on the LSD's just to keep his topline in good condition and for him to get his rhythm right before we go out. He is only about 4 and half at the moment, so I am very surprised at how well for such a young horse he is doing. I don't think I ever had an Arab of the same age with the same temperment to training that this big guy has :)
     
    06-28-2012, 09:42 AM
  #14
Foal
Walkers start out strong early and if cared for only pick up steam!

He will most likely keep changing, and maybe growing, until into his 7th year. That is when they are considered fully grown. Steady training and vigilance for stress injury are the name of the game for a sound horse 25 years down the line.
     
    06-28-2012, 09:47 AM
  #15
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Originally Posted by Jsutton    
Walkers start out strong early and if cared for only pick up steam!

He will most likely keep changing, and maybe growing, until into his 7th year. That is when they are considered fully grown. Steady training and vigilance for stress injury are the name of the game for a sound horse 25 years down the line.
Thats what the previous owners figured as well, as a result I am keeping the status quo with the equiijewel hard feed they had him on, just adding the usually endurance supplements that I usually add. Plus won't be doing anything crazy with him in regards to training. Our national endurance race comes to our state in 2014....so I will see how he is travelling when that gets here...as that is the goal at the moment.

I ride HWT...and to tell you the truth the times he is doing at the moment, if he can sustain those times, they would have been good enugh to win state champs for 2011 and 2010 :)
     
    06-28-2012, 12:37 PM
  #16
Green Broke
Those that post preposterous claims on a forum should be prepared to get called out on them. Have you ever actually even rode 50 miles in a day in any temperature ? Not to mention high heat humidity of August ? As in under 12 hours ? Well I have, and it is no joke and noone that actually ever has would make a claim like you have and expect to be believed.
     
    06-28-2012, 12:47 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
Those that post preposterous claims on a forum should be prepared to get called out on them. Have you ever actually even rode 50 miles in a day in any temperature ? Not to mention high heat humidity of August ? As in under 12 hours ? Well I have, and it is no joke and noone that actually ever has would make a claim like you have and expect to be believed.
I am just thankful we don't get that high humidity in Perth. I have rode in stuff like that in the States, and it is certainly no fun. In Australia we get the dry heat, in some instances the temperature will really get up there. One of the reasons I work my horses before lunch. Mind you, I do work them alittle in the heat to get use to it, if I know I have a race that comes up at the end of the season, which is the start of our summer here (Dec 1).
     
    06-28-2012, 01:00 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by Jsutton    
Walkers start out strong early and if cared for only pick up steam!

He will most likely keep changing, and maybe growing, until into his 7th year. That is when they are considered fully grown. Steady training and vigilance for stress injury are the name of the game for a sound horse 25 years down the line.
One thing I like to do on all my horses to help protect against stress injury to the legs is to use the Vtec Sports Medicine boots on all four legs when training. I have not seen anyone over here doing it yet, and I do get some strange looks, but I just want to look after the legs at all costs. In relation to boots (as my guys are always barefoot) I always boot up with the renegade boots if the ground is hard. I am very lucky, the place where I train has an abundance of really soft sand trails that go for miles.
     
    06-28-2012, 01:26 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Those sport boots, ( the ones that wrap the lower legs,) Arnt not very common in endurance. Building up ligaments and connecting tissues is more important for long term soundness. Those boots can cause horrendous injuries to the skin if sand or debri gets inside them. If they are tight enough to offer support they are tight enough to restrict bloodflow. I seriously feel like that they have no use on an endurance horse. Renegade hoof boots are pretty well liked.
     
    06-28-2012, 01:39 PM
  #20
Foal
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
Those sport boots, ( the ones that wrap the lower legs,) Arnt not very common in endurance. Building up ligaments and connecting tissues is more important for long term soundness. Those boots can cause horrendous injuries to the skin if sand or debri gets inside them. If they are tight enough to offer support they are tight enough to restrict bloodflow. I seriously feel like that they have no use on an endurance horse. Renegade hoof boots are pretty well liked.
Thanks for the input Joe :)....the Vtec ones are pretty special, with hi tec material that is light weight and breaths really well. I take your point and will watch out for those things. But I must admit I have been using them for going on 3 years now, and both of my horses have never been stronger... :) maybe its all the good LSD I do, and not the boots :)
     

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