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    10-05-2012, 02:45 PM
  #11
Trained
Re the bareback pad, it depends on the shape of the horse. And the material the pad is made of.

NEVER EVER EVER buy a bareback pad that has stirrups. Those are just plain dangerous, and have the added nasty side effect of putting ALL your weight on a very narrow band across the poor horse's back.

My gelding's backbone sticks up a little bit. He is 17 and very long-backed, with awkward hindquarter conformation, so it's hard to get him using his back. Even though he is very fat at the moment, his backbone still sticks up. I do ride him bareback but never for long because his backbone literally rubs me raw in very uncomfortable places if I stay on for too long. A bareback pad is awesome in that situation - I like two saddle pads with shaped toplines (straight/flat toplines will slip backwards) girthed on with either a roller if you have one or stirrup leathers.

Once, I didn't even bother girthing the saddle pad I was using (only one because the pony I was on was comfortable to ride bareback so I didn't need the padding). Pony shied 3 feet sideways. I didn't slide sideways at all and stayed with him so easy - wouldn't have been able to stick on straight bareback. But, and this is an important but, that was the ONLY saddle pad that didn't slip on the other horse I had at the time... so it had awesome grip.

You can get non-slip bareback pads. Much better than the sheepskin ones, I have found sheepskin to be horrible on anything but a horse with a high enough wither to hold the saddle steady even with a very very loose (or broken!) girth. Shaped ones are better, as in shaped to allow for the curve of the back and the horse's wither, because non-shaped will slip.

Regarding encouraging the lazy horse to move forward, DO NOT do too many circles. Circles slow down a horse. They are great for the horse that is too forward/excitable, but will make a lazy slug worse. If you go point to point with purpose and direction, and do something interesting when you get there, you will encourage your horse to be more forward.

I used to have a very very lazy pony. Had to whip him hard with a dressage whip to get him into a trot, and then again every few strides to keep him in it. Guess what I did... I asked as softly as I could, then harder, then harder, then made him pay for ignoring me. I kept it consistent and eventually, as long as I had a whip, I could put him into a trot and pretty much forget about him. Canter was harder because he bucked as well as being a lazy ******* but I learned to ride out the bucks (giving him what-for every time he tried it on!) and keep him going.

The most important thing with a lazy horse is to NEVER punish the forward. If you're asking for a trot and it takes a massive effort to get the horse to break out of the walk, and it goes into a canter, that's ok. Let it canter for a few strides, then calmly bring it back to a trot.

My gelding decided to try on the "I'mma ignore you" the other day. Luckily for me I'd decided to ride with a dressage whip. He is 17 and very educated, and I know he KNOWS he has to move forward off a light aid. I gave him ONE chance, which he ignored, then I flicked him with the whip. He grunted, pigrooted, and broke straight into a canter. That was ok because I'd asked him to move forward faster than a walk. So what if he went a bit quicker than I asked him to? I let him go for 10-ish strides, then asked him to come back to a trot, then a walk. Asked for the trot again and he was lovely.

Funnily enough yesterday I got on and he was back to his lovely responsive self.
     
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    10-10-2012, 12:15 AM
  #12
Foal
Aid with the lazy ******* I love

Hello everyone. So a resounding no on the bareback pad eh? Seems better that way. He's a teddy bear enough that I don't really need anything with him. Cheaper too, ha. Had my first freeform ride with him and it went really quite well. I'll probably try bareback next time now that the first ride's out of the way. I think he's a bit of a ham and likes to be lazier when others are around and he thinks he can get away with it. Was able to work on my own positioning over a small jump and plenty of transitions. Inner dialogue of 'fast trot, slow trot, fast trot, slow trot aaaand walk. Up to canter!' He was fairly active. I think he picked up on my 'We're going to work HARD' mood lol. Barely took any crop. Took longer to get to the trot from walk than I think was right but once we got there, it was forward moving. Riding again tomorrow but in proper lesson format :) I think week after next will be BARREL DAY! Lol With transitions. So many transitions. I think once I get him going, he will do barrels like a boss! Lol. Not the greatest trait for an english discipline horse but it's fun, different and I think will help with the activeness.

Oh and I got him cantering solid circles! He has the worst habit of breaking into trot with circles with less insistent riders but I was able to get a few ones with him.

And here he is! :) The lazy teddy bear I adore lol
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