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        07-24-2010, 09:54 PM
    Any Advice? l'm Having Some lssues :)

    L've been having some issues getting Thumper to really use his back at the canter. Before you say anything, l know that part of it is me, and part of it is that no one has ever asked him to do anything but canter in circles. Other people that l've seen on him have enough trouble getting him to slow down that they don't really think about getting him to do anything besides that. So any suggestions? Of course l'll ask my trainer about it, but l want to get as many ideas as possible, and she's out of town right now, anyway. Thanks in advance!
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        07-24-2010, 10:27 PM
    Hmm... Try lots of transitions from trot to canter, canter to trot, trot to walk, walk to canter... You get my point. This should get him to use his butt and back... It worked for Jerry. Also, instead of trying to get him to stretch out, try to get a more up and down motion instead of a forward motion, that will make him round his back. (I think?) Don't hold me to any of that. I'm not too experienced with that, just saying what my trainer told me. :)
        07-24-2010, 11:44 PM
    If he isn't rounding his back, perhaps he is sore? Practical Horseman had a great article about back soreness and how to help it. Look in to that and see if it helps!
        07-24-2010, 11:53 PM
    Thanks, l'll check into that. Actually, l think l remember reading that article! L'll check back and read it more carefully. Ln the indoor arena, he's generally a bit better, but once we get to the outdoor he doesn't use his back, even at the trot. L'll definitely work on transitions more frequently, as well. Thanks for the suggestions!
        07-25-2010, 11:08 AM
    Video's would be helpful :)
        07-25-2010, 01:41 PM
    Alright, l'll try to get one up. L'll post a picture, as well. L know it's something that l'm either doing wrong, or just not doing at all, l just don't know what it is :)
        07-25-2010, 02:07 PM
    Here's a video... l realize that l'm really leaning forward, so l'm sure that this is contributing to the issue :S. These clips are two or three weeks old, and l've been trying to work on that, but of course it's nowhere near perfect :).

    And some pictures, just to show what's happening... he starts to stretch out and loosen up a bit when l'm up off his back (usually more than in the second picture), still not anywhere near okay, obviously, but l can definitely feel the difference when l'm riding, which makes me think that maybe it's something l'm doing when l sit the canter.

        07-25-2010, 02:22 PM
    Green Broke
    I don't have to many tips on collecting him, haha im working on getting my own horse to collect more at the moment, lol. But sit back, and more reaxed, it kinda looks like your forcing your position, just relax, sit back and deep (dont shove your seat into the saddle, relax into it) And lengthen your stirrups for flatwork,I ont know if you already have or anything, but I've always been told your supposed to :P
        07-25-2010, 02:34 PM
    L agree, l definitely need to work on that. L can't lengthen my stirrups in the saddle Thumper has, the stirrups are positioned so far forward on the saddle that it's nearly impossible to remain functional and lengthen the stirrups :/. L've been planning on asking my trainer if l can borrow one of the dressage saddles (that fits him) when l ride him so l can focus on him and not me, but l haven't quite gotten around to that yet :). The first picture is from March, so l've improved since then, but as you can see from the videos, l still have a lot of work ahead of me :). L'll definitely focus on relaxing, that's been a big issue with my riding :/.
        07-25-2010, 03:22 PM
    For being it a jumping saddle you are not going to be able to sit farther back with out pushing your leg forward into a chair seat. I actually think the angle of your upper body looks perfect. You need to get a bit more active with your leg though. It looks like he falls in a lot & your legs stay passive & just hanging their. Use a lot of inside leg, also to help lift his inside shoulder you can lift your inside hand straight up [not back, in, or out though] at the same time you put your inside leg on.

    In general it looks like you guys have made a lot of improvements =]

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