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    05-16-2011, 04:10 AM
  #1
Foal
Anybody else had a horse/pony that just WONT be ridden??

ON BEHALF OF MY SISTER ---- So, she bought Angel as a yearling - lovely lil thing she was too... soo affectionate and by 2/3 she was lunging / long reigning perfectly... she was professionally broken and schooled as a 3/4 year old and was AMAZINGGG! Her jump = WOW... anyway life got in the way so she was turned away for the winter (cuddled and groomed - just not riden).

The following summer she was a nightmare... would not work atall... she would be happy to plod around in the school or on a hack but as soon as you asked her to work she was PLANT then BALK then REAR BIG!! This went on for a few weeks so we resorted to just hacking which she was fine with but gradually started to do the same thing on a Hack... so we decided to sell her on UNTILL my sister was riding her to show prospective buyers what she can do... my sister fought with her for half hour and ten Angel tied-up (muscles went into spasm)...

So she had back treatment after back treatment and then evetually admitted to equine hospital for scans, tests, and more back treatments... they had professional riders on her and they couldnt do anything with her... she would be fine - then plant - then balk - then rear... and now has even started BUCKING!! BUT there is nothing physically wrong with her!

She came home from vets last week - She is now five - lovely natured and sooo cuddly - just will not be ridden!! Don't know what to do... will post pictures soon....
     
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    05-16-2011, 04:17 AM
  #2
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As a 3 year old
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    05-16-2011, 04:18 AM
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As a 5 year old:
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    05-16-2011, 04:33 AM
  #4
Green Broke
Looks like a case of too much too young and you've fried her brain.

May be nothing physically wrong with her but there is something mentaly wrong.

Try sending her away to a very good professional who will re back her for you.
My youngster is difficult, he went away to a proffessional breaker (and a very very good one) and she got him walking under saddle but never managed to sort out his long reining issues, then he exploded and planted her several times in a row and she sent him back to me as unbreakable.

I then sent him away to a Natural horsemanship lady, despite me being very very dubious as I do not believe in NH (perticularly of the Parelli type) however this lady convinced me that she could sort him after she came up and assesed him (she also uses normal methods as well as NH, but not of the Parelli pursuasion).
So far the only problem she has had with him is that he is a bucket murderer and keeps killing all her buckets (when he has finnished his feed he plays with his bucket and chucks it around, has been known to chuck it accross the yard as well), I never kept him in long enough to find this out!
     
    05-16-2011, 07:02 AM
  #5
Banned
Agree with faye.

This all hindsight of course, but I think a couple of things were missed with this filly. A horse that refuses to work in the ring but that will go on a hack is telling you something - she's telling you that the ring work is a.) boring b.) painful or c.) both.

When I looked at the top photo, my first thought was "That's an awfully demanding frame for a 3 year old." And she's already showing some evasion - a little behind the bit and bent at the third vertebra not at the poll. I wonder if when you hacked her out you let her go on loose or long reins or if she was expected to be in a frame then too?

Some horses have the body for a job, but not the mind, some have the mind but not the body, some fortunate ones have both. This filly may just not have the mind to do the kind of work you want her to do, or at the very least, didn't have the mind yet at three years old.

Also agree with faye's suggestion to send her away for retraining. I would give her a three month break with turnout first and start over slowly, carefuly and without putting a lot of demands on her. And she may be permanently sour to the kind of drilling in the ring that's expected of a dressage or event horse.

It's a shame, because she looks to be a lovely, athletic thing. Good luck bringing her back.
     
    05-16-2011, 07:59 AM
  #6
Showing
I'm with other folks. She sounds overworked at the young age. I'd give her time off (2-3 months) to just be a horse again and start her over slowly.
     
    05-16-2011, 09:04 AM
  #7
Foal
Thanks for all your comments... I hope the criticism is supposed to be constructive!! As a family we did discuss maybe she was asked too much too soon BUT At 3/4 years old she wasnt FORCED and she was professionally trained... my sisters instructor was amazed at how quick she learned and how willing she was... She wanted to work!!

She was perfect at 4 and we did turn her away for the winter.... it was coming back into LIGHT WORK that she just wasnt happy! SO as you have all suggested.... we ONLY hacked her for a while... AND sent her to a more relaxed yard to make sure she wasnt in a stressful environment... but then she started doing it when hacking too....

We did consider that she could be sore / have pain... so we sent her to an equine vets and they confirmed that she was not sore / in pain!! And they said it was a mental thing!!!!.... all they done was walk her round the school and occasionally trot - one moment she would be fine the next would do her thing.

Obviously as a family we do feel slightly guilty about how she has turned out and of course think maybe its something we have done... but we love this mare to bits and she loves us too.... JUST DOESN'T LIKE BEING RIDDEN!!!!
     
    05-16-2011, 09:06 AM
  #8
Foal
Thank you for all your comments tho... have kind of confirmed what we thought!! I think we are going to sell her on as a project my sister doesnt have the time for her unfortunatly!! :(
     
    05-16-2011, 09:10 AM
  #9
Foal
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Originally Posted by faye    
Looks like a case of too much too young and you've fried her brain.

May be nothing physically wrong with her but there is something mentaly wrong.

Try sending her away to a very good professional who will re back her for you.
My youngster is difficult, he went away to a proffessional breaker (and a very very good one) and she got him walking under saddle but never managed to sort out his long reining issues, then he exploded and planted her several times in a row and she sent him back to me as unbreakable.

I then sent him away to a Natural horsemanship lady, despite me being very very dubious as I do not believe in NH (perticularly of the Parelli type) however this lady convinced me that she could sort him after she came up and assesed him (she also uses normal methods as well as NH, but not of the Parelli pursuasion).
So far the only problem she has had with him is that he is a bucket murderer and keeps killing all her buckets (when he has finnished his feed he plays with his bucket and chucks it around, has been known to chuck it accross the yard as well), I never kept him in long enough to find this out!
aww ur lad sounds like a right character... we havent thought about natural horsemanship?? Would it still be affective on a horse that is soo lovely and cuddly and trusting on the ground already...??
     
    05-16-2011, 09:13 AM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by shelleyb    
Thanks for all your comments... I hope the criticism is supposed to be constructive!! As a family we did discuss maybe she was asked too much too soon BUT At 3/4 years old she wasnt FORCED and she was professionally trained... my sisters instructor was amazed at how quick she learned and how willing she was... She wanted to work!!
I do want to say that even if a horse CAN learn quickly and is WILLING to do more work does not mean that they should. I learned this the hard way as well, but no matter what your horse is telling you they are ready for, it is up to you (you meaning the general owner) to watch out for them and not push them beyond what is truly reasonable for their age/mental age.

Alot of young horses are so sweet and willing and would jump the moon for anyone who asked, but no matter what you must take it slow with them. I learned this the hard way, too, with the first horse I ever trained. Over my years (although there havent been many, I'm still in my 20's lol) of working with horses, I have seen people make the same mistake as I did, which is exactly what your sister and her instructor did I believe.
     

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