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        11-03-2010, 12:27 PM
      #11
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Oxer    
    you'll never see it in the upper division hunters.
    Never is a strong word.

    I have seen some people at A rated shows with vests.


    I believe the rules state that a person can not be marked down for wearing one.
         
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        11-03-2010, 12:54 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    I think it'd be like penelizing someone for wearing a helment. Sounds silly to me.
         
        11-03-2010, 12:56 PM
      #13
    Foal
    I don't believe most shows would restrict you from wearing safety equipment. (Especially when jumping.) You might not see a lot of other riders wearing one but that doesn't mean it's not legal. So ask and if it's ok, do what makes you feel safe. Start a trend.
         
        11-03-2010, 02:31 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Never is a strong word.

    I have seen some people at A rated shows with vests.


    I believe the rules state that a person can not be marked down for wearing one.
    in the hunters?? I'd love to see pics. Or a rule book from an A rated hunter show, saying that a Vest worn openly over show clothes is acceptable.
    So I am saying that, at least for the shows here, you won't see anyone wearing them openly in the hunters.
         
        11-03-2010, 03:07 PM
      #15
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Oxer    
    in the hunters?? I'd love to see pics. Or a rule book from an A rated hunter show, saying that a Vest worn openly over show clothes is acceptable.
    So I am saying that, at least for the shows here, you won't see anyone wearing them openly in the hunters.
    Here you go, Oxer. I think this rule pretty much says what I said. You can wear it and they can not penalize you for it.

    The rules do not allow me to copy and paste but you can see them Here

    See GR801.4

    Here is my attempt to type what it says:

    Any exhibitor may wear protective headgear (ASTM/SEI) and/or protective safety vest, specifically designed for use in equestrian sport in any division or class with out penalty from the judge. The Federation recommends that the vest meet or surpass the current ASTM standard or be certified by the Safety Equipment Institute.
         
        11-03-2010, 06:53 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    The only times I've seen a vest worn is XC(which is mandatory) and little kinds at schooling shows. At schooling hunter shows I would think it would be ok. But if you ever want to go to an A-rated hunter show, you probably shouldn't wear it. Judges there are so opinionated about looks and such, which is why I quit hunters for eventing! You could probably wear a tipperary under your show coat and you wouldn't be able to tell probably but the tipperary is not certified and would not protect much in the event of a really bad fall. OR you could get the inflatable air vest. It would easily fit under a jacket as it is very thin until you fall off and then it inflates. Just make sure your jacket isn't too tight or it might rip! Haha
         
        11-03-2010, 06:55 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    ^^ It is ALLOWED but you still might not place as well as if you didn't wear one. No where in the rule book does it say you can't have a black saddle for hunters but some judges will probably penalize you for it because most A judges are all about looks. Sorry for anyone who has ever judged hunters! No offense! But I just hate the way hunters works. Which is why I event! Haha
         
        11-03-2010, 11:36 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by equineeventer3390    
    some judges will probably penalize you for it because most A judges are all about looks.
    That is so wrong. It should be about the skills of the horse and rider. As long as the equipment is appropriate and in good condition it should be acceptable. The whole idea is for the tack and rider's clothing to blend as well as possible. I haven't shown very much at all but I've taken judging classes and it seems so contrary to what I've learned. I've heard that type of bias is prevalent. I really feel that it takes more riders starting a trend and wearing the equipment to change that bias.

    Sorry. Ranting. The point is they're both right. It's legal but it might hurt your chances. C'est la vie.
         
        11-04-2010, 07:15 AM
      #19
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    Hunters are judged on the judges opinion.

    Call me overly optimistic but I highly doubt any judge is going to mark someone down if they had a good round on a good horse but happen to have a properly fitted safety vest on.

    They did not mark adult riders down that were wearing an approved helmet before approved helmets were required.
         
        11-04-2010, 05:59 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    And THIS is why I ride the jumpers! I don't a judge looking at my NON six figure horse and my NON six figure outfit and putting me in the bottom because of it. It's a pretty normal thing around here.
         

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