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    01-06-2014, 06:17 PM
  #1
Foal
Canter Pirouette

I just felt like showing something my failed dressage horse (he went through a lot of trainers a few years ago and flunked out of dressage training when he threw a girl and ended her military career) can do. (: I show him in hunters and jumpers, but I thought this was a cool move to show off! Not perfect, I know, but it was my first time doing this particular move and it was a ton of fun.

     
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    01-06-2014, 06:28 PM
  #2
Trained
Be careful. That's a great way to throw out a hock or stifle and end your horse's career.

Also, not a canter pirouette in the classical sense of the term. The horse is cross cantering, not collected, spinning and has his ears pinned the whole time :(
     
    01-06-2014, 06:49 PM
  #3
Foal
Thank you for your concern- I realize it is not a true CP, and this my one and only time trying it (this is a video from mid last year). It was a simple task to ask for a trapped forward movement.

Also please note that pinned does not equal listening. My horse is very animated, his ears remain backwards facing when there are a lot of cues involved- plus I was talking to him. He is very animate when he is ticked off, and no doubt if he was hot and bothered I would have been on the ground. I know when he is aggravated, and this is an instance when he had his ears back and was listening.

I appreciate your concern, but in no way shape or form am I going to put my horse's health on the line. This was only a spot of fun in a dressage style lesson, and an attempt at seeing how collected we could get him to go. Obviously it is not perfect, but we all have to start somewhere, yes? And what better way then to see where you are at. I am not a dressage rider at all and I know how difficult these moves are, and I am only called it a CP because it was a very shy attempt at one.

I realize the flaws and would defiantly not attempt again without more schooling, but I do feel this is impressive for this particular horse because of his past.

(I would go back and edit the original post, but there is no edit option for me there ): }
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    01-06-2014, 07:00 PM
  #4
Yearling
Ears didn't look pinned to me. Listening, yeah...pinned, nope. I saw more "Hmm, I think I'm doing what I'm being asked" body language there than "I'm tired of this crap" body language.
     
    01-06-2014, 09:07 PM
  #5
Weanling
The reason he hollowed was the dropped inside hand, he thought you wanted to change to the other direction. And with a forward leaning seat, it became irritating. Canter P is first collected onto the place, then turning (without excessive bend). When the horse does this in cross canter and leaning inward, it is very hard on the hind leg joints.
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    01-07-2014, 12:03 AM
  #6
Trained
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Originally Posted by equitate    
The reason he hollowed was the dropped inside hand, he thought you wanted to change to the other direction. And with a forward leaning seat, it became irritating. Canter P is first collected onto the place, then turning (without excessive bend). When the horse does this in cross canter and leaning inward, it is very hard on the hind leg joints.

Yes, OP you may not realize this but incorrectly performing these movements without knowledge or conditioning cab seriously damage your horses joints, ligaments and tendons and definitely lead to a career ending injury :(

Unfortunately, your horse seems quite POed in the video and is a saint for not piling you.
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    01-07-2014, 12:37 AM
  #7
Foal
I would appreciate if you would refrain from making assumptions you do not know about, and I will report your comment because they are unnecessary critiques when I clearly did not ask for any. I realize you are only trying to help- but I did not put this up for critique nor insight you do not know.

I know my horse, you do not. I will gladly admit fault of my own when he is mad at me, but this is not a case of him being "po'd". I realize the mistakes, as clearly stated in my other comment- but it seems your intent is to further investigate a claim of me ticking my horse off. Thank you, but no thank you. Your opinion has been heard but you are making rude assumptions.

I would delete this thread if I could to prevent this ridiculous drama but I can't, so all I can do is defend my claim. He is not angry. He is not ticked off.

This was a one time thing and a learned experience. AGAIN. I will mention I HAVE NO TRAINING IN DRESSAGE. Please take your uncalled for insults toward me and refrain from posting anymore because the only reason I put this up was to show how well he is doing in listening to aids. I realize I may be confusing him BUT THAT WAS NOT THE POINT OF THIS VIDEO.

HE IS NOT PO'd- I WOULD ADMIT FAULT IF HE WAS. CONFUSED, YES, BUT HE WAS NOT ANGRY.

Yes I do understand the dangers of doing things wrong which is why I stated I'VE ONLY DONE THIS ONCE, IT WAS MID LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS ONLY TO GAIN INSIGHT ON WHERE WE WERE AT.
     
    01-07-2014, 12:56 AM
  #8
Trained
So you're saying that you would go to the gym, load up a bar with a few plates and try to squat it to get "insight to where you are at" and that's ok because you have no powrrlifting training?
Ignorance is a poor excuse for endangering your horse - you would not do it to yourself :(

I have not insulted you, nor have I been rude. If you can't handle the truth, don't post a video, very simple.
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    01-07-2014, 12:56 AM
  #9
Weanling
Horse POed, not really. Out of balance and struggling-for sure. Horses do not love or hate, they merely try to 'get alone' within the perimeters we set for them whether they are fair or not. So we have to have clear ideas of what we want and how to get there. And try to always set them up for success and not failure or things which can be injurious (even though sometimes it may just be because we don't know what we don't know).

Honest question for a h/j rider: would you try to land off a fence and turn in this way? Likely no. The perimeters are much the same.

OP, ya sort of set your self up for critique/evaluation when you said you thought you would show of something. You are happy that he is doing h/j given a shady past, but usually horses which have problems with training on the flat are defensive in some way to rider's action. Food for thought
     
    01-07-2014, 01:02 AM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
So you're saying that you would go to the gym, load up a bar with a few plates and try to squat it to get "insight to where you are at" and that's ok because you have no powrrlifting training?
Ignorance is a poor excuse for endangering your horse - you would not do it to yourself :(

I have not insulted you, nor have I been rude. If you can't handle the truth, don't post a video, very simple.
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I don't see how that is relevant, I would know my own limits because they are mine- we do not know our own horse's until we test them.

Ignorance? I don't think so. I was simply following instruction to try something new.

Actually, it is an insult because I pride myself in the relationship I have with my horses. You told me I am endangering my horses when I am not, it was a one time thing and I have admitted my faults. YOU are being very confrontational by offering up that opinion.

If I wanted feedback I would have posted in a critique thread, which I didn't. I posted here because it is english riding and it was an attempt at something- obviously not a good one, but it was still a proud moment because he went off of aids.
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