Thanks! And one of the horses i show is a push button lesson horse, very few things piss him off, and i've never seen him kick or buck or bite. The other horse, however is a green tb, and i could imagine him kicking at a horse that got too close to his butt. Also, in the summer series i show in, they don't really follow the splitting up rules they set. Once, in about a 200x80 ft ring with jumps set, they held a hack class with 16 horses, even though the split was supposed to be at 10 horses. There were a lot of pissy acting horses during that class lol!