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    10-23-2012, 07:32 AM
I have to disagree with the chair seat being more secure. I think the way you have been taught to ride is going to be your most secure position. I was taught a deep dressage seat from the beginning, even as a kid I was riding with a shoulder/hip/heel line. I definitely feel far more secure in a deep seat with my legs below me than in any other position.
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    10-23-2012, 10:14 PM
Certainly what we are taught is our most secure in mind regardless. I recently have decided that I should sit the way the saddle "tells" me to. I am by no means a technical rider, but I've improved a lot in my security. Last weekend's ride was a perfect example. My mare decided that it was a beautiful bucking day (LOL) but since I have moved from "shoulder-hips-heel" to "shoulder-hips-down in the saddle-back in the saddle" I am much more secure and her little crow hops didn't fizz me one bit. Was I in a chair seat? I don't think an easyboy chair, but ya, I doubt my heels were back where "they should be."

I'm convinced that different saddles and different sports require different seats.

Edited to add: Personally, I think the lead girl in bsms's photo looks out of place. She should be in an English saddle, not a western, with that seat.
    10-23-2012, 11:20 PM
Unless you're going down a hill or bracing against the horse's mouth or the back of the saddle for security, I cannot imagine a chair seat being more secure than a balanced head-shoulder-hip-heel seat for *most* instances.
    10-24-2012, 12:33 AM
I find when I'm aligned shoulder/hip/heel, I have a tendency to slightly tip forward when my horse does something "unplanned" ;) As soon as my balance is too far ahead, I'm a gonner.
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    10-24-2012, 12:41 AM
Hmmmm interesting. I actually find that my seat changes a lot throughout my whole ride. I'm a very heels down and off my horse (short legs plus spurs on big horse! ) it all depends on how and what we are working in.

I do find the shoulder/hip/HEELS DOWN seat to be very secure. With a chair seat I feel as though there is no thigh down contact....therefore if something were to happen that could unseat me, them only my lower leg and butt is on the horse......
    10-24-2012, 01:00 AM
Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
Unless you're going down a hill or bracing against the horse's mouth or the back of the saddle for security, I cannot imagine a chair seat being more secure than a balanced head-shoulder-hip-heel seat for *most* instances.
Some of it depends on the horse and saddle. With a broad back horse and most western saddles, I find I have to put my feet forward or else my butt won't go into the saddle. Maybe it is tight thighs, but I cannot get my thighs down and my butt in the seat at the same time with a big horse & western.

With my Arabian mare & my Aussie style saddle, I start each ride by shoving my knees down. My mare isn't very wide, and the saddle allows my knees to go down and still have my butt in the saddle. However, if I have my heels under my hip, they will not be down. But when my heels are at my belt buckle, my heels go down - if my toes can go out. One toe more than the other. My mare is my horse that feels free to make full power conversions from movement to the "OMG Crouch".

My mare is used to me riding her and expects my legs to kind of wrap around her. My gelding was spurred bloody years ago, and he still hates lower leg contact. That is OK, because my wife and daughter ride him 99% of the time, and they do not ride with lower leg contact.

So it depends. That is why I love the tag line provided by V.S. Littauer, who was famous as a proponent of the forward seat.

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