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post #1 of 13 Old 05-31-2009, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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Collection problems

Hello! I have lately been having problems with collection with diamon. Yesterday he was fine. He was moving forward, on the bit, and collected. Today he was totally different. During warmup he was collecting fine with me, but as soon as we were doing more he wouldn't even get on the bit. My saddle and tack were all in place. Sometimes he's just so unpredictable with this. He defaintly knows how to collect, but gets lazy with it. Can anybody give me some tips!

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post #2 of 13 Old 05-31-2009, 08:16 PM
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All I can say is 60 degrees and clouds gets me a fantastic ride. A sunny 80 degree day with humidity = entirely different result. It might have been something as simple as that.
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That is so true! Lol. Maybe I wish horses could talk.lol

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The question is, how are you asking for collection?
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MIEventer- great question!
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I have a friend who does PSG dressage . She will train her horse depending on his behavoir . If he gets it right she will often reward him by doing no more training ang going out hacking instead . If he gets it wrong she persists untill he gets it right. I have seen her go into the arena practice a short dressage test - then leave, the training over in only 5 minutes.
Good behavoir or the right position of the horse should be rewarded - often a rider or trainer will think I'm having a good session so I will keep it going which is a mistake.
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The question is, how are you asking for collection?
I get him moving forward and squezze lightly on both reins until he accepts the bit and rounds his neck.

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I have a friend who does PSG dressage . She will train her horse depending on his behavoir . If he gets it right she will often reward him by doing no more training ang going out hacking instead . If he gets it wrong she persists untill he gets it right. I have seen her go into the arena practice a short dressage test - then leave, the training over in only 5 minutes.
Good behavoir or the right position of the horse should be rewarded - often a rider or trainer will think I'm having a good session so I will keep it going which is a mistake.
Yes I actually do that a lot. Especially in the winter when it was a really yucky day if he would get something right when I was asking I would end it there and cool him off.

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I get him moving forward and squezze lightly on both reins until he accepts the bit and rounds his neck.
That is not collection.

You may get him somewhat rounded but unlikely collected.
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post #10 of 13 Old 06-01-2009, 10:03 AM Thread Starter
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That is not collection.

You may get him somewhat rounded but unlikely collected.
Yes I was thinking that.lol. When me and a trainer were first teaching him how to collect she did something and I can't remember what, but diamon defaintly knows how to collect. Can you give me advise please! I have only been riding for 2 years so I am still a beginner.

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