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        02-27-2014, 02:36 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    If I saw other horses spooking at an object I would try to get my horse next to it to check it out before my ride.
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        02-27-2014, 03:51 AM
      #22
    Super Moderator
    What a ridiculous situation! I've asked somebody to move a little just once, and it was a lady with a huge, bright pink umbrella, which she was repeatedly opening and closing while sitting near a shady corner of the arena - and it was a kiddy show! (I was helping out) - but a seasoned dressage horse and rider pairing should KNOW how to handle something as simple as a pram. If the rider cannot do that, well then - bad for them, should put more training in their horses, not just expect them to behave.
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        02-27-2014, 06:35 AM
      #23
    Trained
    Have to agree with the OP-a bit ridiculous. And, just an observation-at every show I have ever been to there are numerous opportunities for "bomb proofing"…..except the dressage ones. Just an observation. Isn't the horse supposed to be paying attention to the RIDER? Shoot at most shows there are folks right at the rail, hands hanging over holding almost anything….and judges with umbrellas for shade.

    Makes me so grateful for my horse-who can go into a coliseum without ever seeing it before, with people, announcers and everything in between…..and NEVER bat an eye. I used to be one of those up tight avoid everything possible types…..but realized it was silly, since no matter how you try-there will always be something unseen (or imaginary)that bugs the horse if you are looking for it. But-if you go around and just do your job……things are usually fine. Trouble will come if you look for it.
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        02-27-2014, 06:46 AM
      #24
    Trained
    To an extent, I completely agree with the riders and judges asking you to move.
    Not every horse gets exposure to a pram, and some horses are extremely reactive.
    Try riding a hot, fresh and very green 3 year old warmblood that is shaking in its boots at it's first competition. We pay A LOT of money to enter an official competition, and yes, if there is someone near the arena and my horse is anxious about them, I will sure as heck as them to move. The competition arena is not the time and place for desensitising horses.

    And no, it doesn't mean a rider can't control their horse or never gets it out of an arena, Dressage is an incredibly precise discipline, and a little tension and distraction from the horse can mean the different between 1st and 6th placings.

    I always try to take my young or green horses out a few times in a competition environment without actually entering, to give the horse some exposure. I also ride out on trails regularly, partake in clinics, group lessons with beginner riders to expose my horses to horses going left right and centre with no respect to 'arena rules' etc.
    But sometimes, your horse may be on edge already and it is one little thing that sets them off. If its a pram and you're about to enter the arena, you're going to tell people to move.
         
        02-27-2014, 06:57 AM
      #25
    Started
    And to think that when I arrived at the racing yard I work at, the trainer took the pram and wheeled it in to the colt barn and down to the gallops while we walked and talked - yep they looked but they darn well had to deal with it. Ever been to a TB yearling sale? There are prams galore. The horses just have to deal with it.

    Liligirl - It can be a PITA being a parent in the horse world. It really can. Those who whine rarely have had the luxury of dealing with life after baby. All of us parents have been there - I was at one 3 day event and told to take my baby home because it was "too hot" and no place for a child.... I was sitting in the shade by a water jump, the child was smothered in sunscreen, a hat and a small umbrella over the buggy. Ignorance. Put ignorance. I won't tell you my response.
         
        02-27-2014, 09:55 AM
      #26
    Started
    We do a driving event at a VERY large facility, EVERY YEAR. We have been there with almost every other breed show, and the dressage riders are the ONLY ones who have had a problem. We are ON THE ROAD, they are in the WARM-UP arena (not competition arena), and they are crying foul because we are scaring their horses.

    Sorry you could not enjoy your outing with the baby.
         
        02-27-2014, 11:55 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    You must be better people than I am..... I would have moved ONCE. My wifes barrel horses run indoors and outdoors with kids on bikes, golf carts squirrel ass kids on scooters, running around screaming and chasing, and these horses perform. You go to almost any show and there are things there that will freak a horse out. I guarantee if you horse can't handle a baby stroller OUTSIDE the arena, you need to go back to the drawing board. Wow.....
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        02-27-2014, 12:15 PM
      #28
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    To an extent, I completely agree with the riders and judges asking you to move.
    Not every horse gets exposure to a pram, and some horses are extremely reactive.
    Try riding a hot, fresh and very green 3 year old warmblood that is shaking in its boots at it's first competition. We pay A LOT of money to enter an official competition, and yes, if there is someone near the arena and my horse is anxious about them, I will sure as heck as them to move. The competition arena is not the time and place for desensitising horses.

    And no, it doesn't mean a rider can't control their horse or never gets it out of an arena, Dressage is an incredibly precise discipline, and a little tension and distraction from the horse can mean the different between 1st and 6th placings.

    I always try to take my young or green horses out a few times in a competition environment without actually entering, to give the horse some exposure. I also ride out on trails regularly, partake in clinics, group lessons with beginner riders to expose my horses to horses going left right and centre with no respect to 'arena rules' etc.
    But sometimes, your horse may be on edge already and it is one little thing that sets them off. If its a pram and you're about to enter the arena, you're going to tell people to move.
    And the discrimination continues LOL.
    I agree with Kayty. Number one, these are not quarter horses and number two this is not a barrel race. Apples and oranges.
    I was at a competition last weekend on a very spooky, hot horse and it is not fun to be on something you have to get through a test on that you know is going to be flying sideways at least once during the ride. There are also rules about how far from the ring spectators must be. Were there not stands and designated spectator areas?

    Yes, I hack and desensitize my horses but it does not change the fact that they are hot, high powered athletes and asking the young ones to focus in a new place with scary things is very difficult on the particularly spooky ones. I would suggest to you next time to go to a designated spectator area and watch from there. Although it sucks you had a bad day, the show was not put on specifically for you and your enjoyment. When you pay for tickets to an event and are in a designated area - then you have grounds to complain, JMO.

    If you want I can put you on the hot kid and you can see how much you want to ride around a pram LOL this stands for everyone - I have photos of this horse 6' off the ground :P And that's after desensitizing.


    I also enjoy how in the dog thread I'm the only person who has ridden lots with playing dogs in the indoor arena - at home I desensitize so much! At a competition is not the place. My horse could spook away from the pram into you and your child or another person. It is not a controlled environment and not a safe place to be doing desensitizing.
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        02-27-2014, 12:46 PM
      #29
    Started
    My favorite show was held at my trainer's barn...she rode around ALL day runnning scores, drinks, etc. on her bicycle, complete with stuff strapped on the back and many times a dog in the basket.

    Yes, recognized dressage shows.
         
        02-27-2014, 12:59 PM
      #30
    Super Moderator
    Its symptomatic of the horse riding society that never take them outside of an indoor arena or manege I'm afraid
    Yes we should get our horses used to everything and prepare them for the buzz of a showground but too many people don't do that - and a lot of these horses that spend all their time in stables really don't get anything like enough exercise so they're over fresh to start with (Something that was recently lamented by some top UK dressage riders in a magazine so not just my opinion)
    I'm inclined to think that the OP was asked to move the pram in case some horse spooked badly at it and caused an accident so they were covering their own backs so to speak in case they got sued by a competitor or injured spectator
    Just because horses should be used to stuff like that doesn't mean they all are and a horse that freaks out and bolts out of the arena (that possibly had no barriers around it) into a crowd is going to cause a lot of damage
         

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