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        02-27-2014, 01:08 PM
      #31
    Foal
    Agree! Baby should be outa there!!! My horse got scared of a bicycle once & freaked out. Hard telling what will scare a horse. Better safe than sorry!!
         
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        02-27-2014, 01:10 PM
      #32
    Green Broke
    I agree that it was ridiculous. I ride lots of very hot horses, retraining thoroughbreds off the track. My BO was just riding her two year old past busses with school children yelling, bicycles, barking dogs, etc, and he's a race horse, I don't think you can get a hotter breed or occupation. Asking you to move once is understandable, but what you went through is ridiculous.
         
        02-27-2014, 01:19 PM
      #33
    Green Broke
    Personally, I think it's a bit rude.

    I would never dream of asking someone to move while I compete. I should be prepared for anything... If I'm not, then it's just not my day to place. There will always be another show.

    A barn where I boarded Gator had stands where people could audit lessons/rides/clinics etcetera at the outdoor arena. I was riding one day, and a woman was sitting on the stands. It was a chilly day, and she had a pink blanket. Apparently she couldn't get comfortable, as she kept standing and fiddling with the blanket, even shaking it out.
    Gator had a FIT. He was terrified of the thing. He gave a nice spook and spin at top speed--somehow I managed to keep my seat xD This happened three times (each time I passed her) before she asked if she was scaring him, and should she move. I told her no, that she was fine and Gator was just being silly. I thought it would be rude to make such a request.

    Piggybacking off of that, I took my three year old filly to a rather large 4H show a couple years ago. This was her first show, and I had planned to just take her for exposure and not enter.
    She did so well, and I had brought my clothes just in case, that I ended up entering her in a simple walk-trot class. The judge requested that everyone in the stands be quiet, as she was a baby and still figuring everything out. I didn't request it. If the judge/announcer chooses to ask someone to move then fine. It's their show. But I certainly wouldn't.
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        02-27-2014, 02:02 PM
      #34
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    I agree that it was ridiculous. I ride lots of very hot horses, retraining thoroughbreds off the track. My BO was just riding her two year old past busses with school children yelling, bicycles, barking dogs, etc, and he's a race horse, I don't think you can get a hotter breed or occupation. Asking you to move once is understandable, but what you went through is ridiculous.
    TBs are kittens compared to many, many WBs. I have lots of students on OTTBs and I would consider most of them to be deadheads. There are one or two who will get excited, but are very easy to control and manage.

    Competitions are NOT the place to be desensitizing a horse. There are far too many folks around who are at a very high risk for injury.
    Spectators should remain in designated areas. There are rules for spectators for a reason - horses are dangerous.

    OP is lucky she did not spook a horse who then ran over her and her child :(
         
        02-27-2014, 02:40 PM
      #35
    Foal
    Some of these comments are quite funny, you would think I had been standing right at the entrance to the arena waving a big red flag. Also on those that say I was lucky that I didn't spoke a horse into me as baby, at 20 meters. If one of my horses spooked and ran into me with 20 meters between us id say that was deliberate and they needed work fast.

    I was standing 20 meters away in the correct place. With the other spectators... Well actually there weren't any, as no one goes to dressage competitions anymore here. I can see why now though.
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        02-27-2014, 02:40 PM
      #36
    Started
    Sheesh, you don't have to talk me out of a warmblood xD
         
        02-27-2014, 02:42 PM
      #37
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by oh vair oh    
    Sheesh, you don't have to talk me out of a warmblood xD
    And you couldn't talk me out of one. I love the nutters but they take patience and a bit of nerve hahaha.
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        02-27-2014, 02:59 PM
      #38
    Yearling
    In my experience with WBs they have been calm and laid back. And that's talking about GP jumpers and dressage horses.

    Although I would never fathom asking someone to move because they were spooking my horse, I would deal with it. Sounds like a pretty big hole in their training.

    Perhaps the people complaining should stop putting their focus and money into winning and showing, and more into creating a horse that doesn't go nuts at the sight of a stroller.
         
        02-27-2014, 03:12 PM
      #39
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    To an extent, I completely agree with the riders and judges asking you to move.
    Not every horse gets exposure to a pram, and some horses are extremely reactive.
    Try riding a hot, fresh and very green 3 year old warmblood that is shaking in its boots at it's first competition. We pay A LOT of money to enter an official competition, and yes, if there is someone near the arena and my horse is anxious about them, I will sure as heck as them to move. The competition arena is not the time and place for desensitising horses.

    And no, it doesn't mean a rider can't control their horse or never gets it out of an arena, Dressage is an incredibly precise discipline, and a little tension and distraction from the horse can mean the different between 1st and 6th placings.

    I always try to take my young or green horses out a few times in a competition environment without actually entering, to give the horse some exposure. I also ride out on trails regularly, partake in clinics, group lessons with beginner riders to expose my horses to horses going left right and centre with no respect to 'arena rules' etc.
    But sometimes, your horse may be on edge already and it is one little thing that sets them off. If its a pram and you're about to enter the arena, you're going to tell people to move.
    I realize that Anebel and you think we all pick on the dressage folks, but just listen to yourselves please. You make it sound like yours are the ONLY hot reactive horses out there,(or for use the MOST, since they cannot be second at anything) and that your shows are the most expensive on the planet, as well as that your discipline is "precise"---like the rest of ours aren't-just in a different way? You are the ones sounding elitist. There is no need for any of us to contribute to that. I for one would strongly disagree that your discipline is the only "precise" and expensive one out there. Sorry, but I really find this whole attitude the reason I have the impression that dressage folk are a bit snobbish. And I am trying to be as nice as possible…..again-you all are saying these things….I am simply reading them.
         
        02-27-2014, 03:38 PM
      #40
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    I realize that Anebel and you think we all pick on the dressage folks, but just listen to yourselves please. You make it sound like yours are the ONLY hot reactive horses out there,(or for use the MOST, since they cannot be second at anything) and that your shows are the most expensive on the planet, as well as that your discipline is "precise"---like the rest of ours aren't-just in a different way? You are the ones sounding elitist. There is no need for any of us to contribute to that. I for one would strongly disagree that your discipline is the only "precise" and expensive one out there. Sorry, but I really find this whole attitude the reason I have the impression that dressage folk are a bit snobbish. And I am trying to be as nice as possible…..again-you all are saying these things….I am simply reading them.
    You are interpreting them that way. WHERE in this post is it said that no other discipline requires precision?? Where is it said that no other discipline is expensive? Or no other horses are hot or reactive?
    The answer is NEVER.

    The point is that YOU are the one reading these things into the post. The post says - hot young green warmbloods are reactive in a new environment and where there is lots of $ on the line and potential for danger, it is not excessive to ask someone to move a spooky object.
    The exact same thing can happen anywhere, with any sport. The difference is people think being 5m away from a dressage fence is OK - would any barrel race put spectators 5m away from a barrel with no fence between them and the barrel? A jumping competition have parking 5m away from a big jump with only an 8" high white fence between the horses and the cars? Etc..

    Call us snobby all you would like - truth is we're all on hot horses (some horses a bit hotter and more prone to flying through the air than others) in sports that are difficult and all the judgement between the disciplines is just tiresome. I have NEVER said reining, barrels, etc.. are not difficult. Don't know why these words keep getting shoved in my mouth??
         

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